Telling owner to shut their dogs up.
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Firstly, I have no issue with dogs or good owners but yesterday I finally snapped.
Sitting in a nice quiet pub garden, a couple of women came and sat very near us. One went off to get drinks while the other held onto these two small white dogs. After a few seconds they were barking in a high pitched way that was ear-piercing and right next to us. I said to the woman 'Can't you turn those things down.' followed by 'Come on, you need to deal with those'. I could have been a bit stronger with the wording but I got the impression that she wasn't the dog's owner but FFS, have some consideration. Anyway the other woman came back and they moved away but 'sorry' is not an excuse for your crappy ownership. There was a larger dog very close by that didn't make a sound. Why do some people think non-owners are fine with their crappy ability to not control their dogs?
Anyway, grrr
Sitting in a nice quiet pub garden, a couple of women came and sat very near us. One went off to get drinks while the other held onto these two small white dogs. After a few seconds they were barking in a high pitched way that was ear-piercing and right next to us. I said to the woman 'Can't you turn those things down.' followed by 'Come on, you need to deal with those'. I could have been a bit stronger with the wording but I got the impression that she wasn't the dog's owner but FFS, have some consideration. Anyway the other woman came back and they moved away but 'sorry' is not an excuse for your crappy ownership. There was a larger dog very close by that didn't make a sound. Why do some people think non-owners are fine with their crappy ability to not control their dogs?
Anyway, grrr
Frimley111R said:
Firstly, I have no issue with dogs or good owners but yesterday I finally snapped.
Sitting in a nice quiet pub garden, a couple of women came and sat very near us. One went off to get drinks while the other held onto these two small white dogs. After a few seconds they were barking in a high pitched way that was ear-piercing and right next to us. I said to the woman 'Can't you turn those things down.' followed by 'Come on, you need to deal with those'. I could have been a bit stronger with the wording but I got the impression that she wasn't the dog's owner but FFS, have some consideration. Anyway the other woman came back and they moved away but 'sorry' is not an excuse for your crappy ownership. There was a larger dog very close by that didn't make a sound. Why do some people think non-owners are fine with their crappy ability to not control their dogs?
Anyway, grrr
So, to debrief, someone left their dogs with someone for a few minutes to get some drinks and you didn't have the tolerance to accept the dog barking for a bit. Sitting in a nice quiet pub garden, a couple of women came and sat very near us. One went off to get drinks while the other held onto these two small white dogs. After a few seconds they were barking in a high pitched way that was ear-piercing and right next to us. I said to the woman 'Can't you turn those things down.' followed by 'Come on, you need to deal with those'. I could have been a bit stronger with the wording but I got the impression that she wasn't the dog's owner but FFS, have some consideration. Anyway the other woman came back and they moved away but 'sorry' is not an excuse for your crappy ownership. There was a larger dog very close by that didn't make a sound. Why do some people think non-owners are fine with their crappy ability to not control their dogs?
Anyway, grrr
It's not like this was outside your bedroom window at 4am.
Frimley111R said:
FFS, have some consideration.
QuiteSheets Tabuer said:
You've not experienced anything until you get on a plane to Oz and someone sits in the row behind with a 6 month old baby.
True, I did go to Bulgaria and a mate had a toddler who had a tantrum most of the flight and was kicking and screaming in the seat behind. I didn't envy him that! A s
t parent rather than owner on that occasion.Muzzer79 said:
So, to debrief, someone left their dogs with someone for a few minutes to get some drinks and you didn't have the tolerance to accept the dog barking for a bit.
No I didn't. If I sat next to you and blasted my radio randomly at full volume at you you'd be ok with that? You'd think "Well, its fking annoying but I'm a tolerant type."It boggles the mind why you think people should put up with such poor owners.
Frimley111R said:
Anyway the other woman came back and they moved away but 'sorry' is not an excuse for your crappy ownership.
Assuming that the one who came back actually did say sorry, what more could the two women have done in the particular circumstances you’ve described? Training the dogs to be silent around strangers seems like a bit of a stretch - it sounds like they were overexcited at being around each other anyway. Frimley111R said:
True, I did go to Bulgaria and a mate had a toddler who had a tantrum most of the flight and was kicking and screaming in the seat behind. I didn't envy him that! A st parent rather than owner on that occasion.
You think a toddler having a tantrum is the result of a st parent rather than owner on that occasion.t parent? You don’t have children. You also come across as entitled, how very dare these people affect you in a pub garden! Frimley111R said:
Muzzer79 said:
So, to debrief, someone left their dogs with someone for a few minutes to get some drinks and you didn't have the tolerance to accept the dog barking for a bit.
No I didn't. If I sat next to you and blasted my radio randomly at full volume at you you'd be ok with that? You'd think "Well, its fking annoying but I'm a tolerant type."It boggles the mind why you think people should put up with such poor owners.
Frimley111R said:
Muzzer79 said:
So, to debrief, someone left their dogs with someone for a few minutes to get some drinks and you didn't have the tolerance to accept the dog barking for a bit.
No I didn't. If I sat next to you and blasted my radio randomly at full volume at you you'd be ok with that? You'd think "Well, its fking annoying but I'm a tolerant type."It boggles the mind why you think people should put up with such poor owners.
A dog barking is not. It's a dog, it's not exactly possible to 100% control when they bark.
It was only for a short time and, from your post, it appears that the owner apologised.
A dog barking in public is not a symbol of a poor owner, it's a symbol of a dog being a dog.
I'd have sympathy if this was going on for hours or the owner came back and told you to to do one but, frankly, you're just coming across as entitled.
Dog owners seem to becoming more and more entitled.
We often visit a local beach. Dogs are allowed from 1st October to the end of April. So why do dog owners think the rules do not apply. Loads ignoring the no dogs rule. It's a privately owned beach and there are signs saying £1000 fine. I'm not sure how they can apply it, but I hope someone gets done.
We often visit a local beach. Dogs are allowed from 1st October to the end of April. So why do dog owners think the rules do not apply. Loads ignoring the no dogs rule. It's a privately owned beach and there are signs saying £1000 fine. I'm not sure how they can apply it, but I hope someone gets done.
Sounds like separation anxiety, since they calmed down once the other person returned.
Our rescue lurcher has it, its incredibly embarrassing so we very very rarely take him anywhere that one of us may have to leave 'the pack'.
Despite what some will say, it's NOT _always_ possible to train it out, that's like suggesting parents should be always able to train an autistic child.
Our rescue lurcher has it, its incredibly embarrassing so we very very rarely take him anywhere that one of us may have to leave 'the pack'.
Despite what some will say, it's NOT _always_ possible to train it out, that's like suggesting parents should be always able to train an autistic child.
We've got a small dog from a breed with a reputation for being a bit yappy (Japanese Spitz).
We do take her out and we get very embarrassed if she's too barky.
Things we've learned over the years - a few drops of valerian an hour before you get somewhere calms her down, distractions like a new bone stop her barking, take her for a walk outside if it is all too much for her.
So yes, dogs bark and it does sound like separation anxiety, but there are things a responsible dog owner can do to reduce it.
We do take her out and we get very embarrassed if she's too barky.
Things we've learned over the years - a few drops of valerian an hour before you get somewhere calms her down, distractions like a new bone stop her barking, take her for a walk outside if it is all too much for her.
So yes, dogs bark and it does sound like separation anxiety, but there are things a responsible dog owner can do to reduce it.
I'm not the biggest dog person and it does annoy me when one is making a lot of noise in a beer garden (kids are generally worse, though...).
That said:
The dog was whining for a few minutes while its owner went to the bar.
You complained.
They apologised and moved away from you.
And this annoyed you enough to post about it on PH..?
That said:
The dog was whining for a few minutes while its owner went to the bar.
You complained.
They apologised and moved away from you.
And this annoyed you enough to post about it on PH..?
AndyJWB said:
I'm not the biggest dog person and it does annoy me when one is making a lot of noise in a beer garden (kids are generally worse, though...).
That said:
The dog was whining for a few minutes while its owner went to the bar.
You complained.
They apologised and moved away from you.
And this annoyed you enough to post about it on PH..?
Difficult to know what the OP was hoping for. I assume agreement to assuage some guilt at acting like a prat. That said:
The dog was whining for a few minutes while its owner went to the bar.
You complained.
They apologised and moved away from you.
And this annoyed you enough to post about it on PH..?
In any pub garden you will often find:
Babies crying,
Kids screaming with delight,
Loud, often drunk adults sometimes using choice language,
Dogs barking.
None of these are ideal but all are part of life and all are part of going to the pub on a nice day.
Out of that list, I'd suggest that the dogs will likely be the least problematic. As someone has suggested, most likely they were calling for their owner or whoever went to get the drinks. Unless they continued to bark for the entirety of the time they were there, it really isn't a big deal.
There used to be pubs that wouldn't allow children or dogs on the premises. These have all closed down now and are Tesco Expresses so its it does bother you, you could nip into one of those, pick up a couple of cans and relax in your own garden.
Babies crying,
Kids screaming with delight,
Loud, often drunk adults sometimes using choice language,
Dogs barking.
None of these are ideal but all are part of life and all are part of going to the pub on a nice day.
Out of that list, I'd suggest that the dogs will likely be the least problematic. As someone has suggested, most likely they were calling for their owner or whoever went to get the drinks. Unless they continued to bark for the entirety of the time they were there, it really isn't a big deal.
There used to be pubs that wouldn't allow children or dogs on the premises. These have all closed down now and are Tesco Expresses so its it does bother you, you could nip into one of those, pick up a couple of cans and relax in your own garden.
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