Dashcams Banned in Several European Countries

Dashcams Banned in Several European Countries

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loafer123

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15,878 posts

228 months

https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/po...

Portugal has joined Switzerland, Austria, and Luxembourg in enforcing an outright ban on dash cams, intensifying concerns for summer travelers who may unknowingly violate strict European privacy laws. As these countries treat in-vehicle recording as illegal surveillance, tourists face the risk of hefty fines—up to €25,000 in some cases—for merely possessing or using dash cams, even if they remain switched off. With privacy enforcement tightening across borders, travelers are urged to leave dash cams behind or risk serious legal and financial consequences during their European road trips.

otolith

60,820 posts

217 months

Don't Teslas have one built in?

Krikkit

27,320 posts

194 months

The manufactuer-integrated ones will probably have geofencing to switch themselves off in the various countries which are banning them.

Dr Interceptor

8,136 posts

209 months

It has been the case in Portugal for some time... I know, I semi live there. The same law applies to CCTV external to your property.

Amuses me that it is also now one of the go to place for new car launches, and you have journos running round in press cars crammed full of GoPro's and the like, when joe public can't use a dashcam.

Zio Di Roma

831 posts

45 months

loafer123 said:
https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/po...

Portugal has joined Switzerland, Austria, and Luxembourg in enforcing an outright ban on dash cams, intensifying concerns for summer travelers who may unknowingly violate strict European privacy laws. As these countries treat in-vehicle recording as illegal surveillance, tourists face the risk of hefty fines—up to €25,000 in some cases—for merely possessing or using dash cams, even if they remain switched off. With privacy enforcement tightening across borders, travelers are urged to leave dash cams behind or risk serious legal and financial consequences during their European road trips.
I'm conflicted on this.

On the one hand I despise our loss of privacy in the UK. On the other, a dashcam saved my skin last week.

It's tricky.

Ham_and_Jam

3,020 posts

110 months

Zio Di Roma said:
I'm conflicted on this.

On the one hand I despise our loss of privacy in the UK. On the other, a dashcam saved my skin last week.

It's tricky.
I wouldn’t be without one now. Too many twunts about that can’t drive, and more annoyingly lie if they damage your car.

Like yourself it was only dashcam footage that changed the story of a guy that bumped my last car.



Durzel

12,668 posts

181 months

Zio Di Roma said:
I'm conflicted on this.

On the one hand I despise our loss of privacy in the UK. On the other, a dashcam saved my skin last week.

It's tricky.
What expectation should you realistically expect to have when in public?

I can understand rules against static CCTV that incidentally (or purpoefully) captures people on private property, including their footpaths, gardens, etc, but I struggle to conceive of what the issue is with dashcams, whilst I can see multiple upsides - including clarifying or proving fault in accidents, disincentivising vandalism, etc.

Zio Di Roma

831 posts

45 months

Durzel said:
Zio Di Roma said:
I'm conflicted on this.

On the one hand I despise our loss of privacy in the UK. On the other, a dashcam saved my skin last week.

It's tricky.
What expectation should you realistically expect to have when in public?

I can understand rules against static CCTV that incidentally (or purpoefully) captures people on private property, including their footpaths, gardens, etc, but I struggle to conceive of what the issue is with dashcams, whilst I can see multiple upsides - including clarifying or proving fault in accidents, disincentivising vandalism, etc.
Quite. It's one thing having one's CCTV camera pointing at the bedroom window of Mrs Jones at No.37, quite another tooling around with a camera running in my car windscreen. I don't have my CCTV pointing at Mrs. Jones's window, it's an example...

So relieved was I that I had a dashcam last week that I was planning to fit them to our other cars. If there is a chance that we in the UK will be barred from having them soon I may wait.


hidetheelephants

29,611 posts

206 months

Fining anyone for owning a switched off dashcam is quite ambitious; are they going to arrest and fine everyone holding a phone as well, given the functionality is indistinguishable? Are they going to seize phones at airports and ports for random checks? It's not just the US going with illiberal nonsense this year then, it all sounds wildly unenforceable and practically will just be another thing they'll use to wallop someone who has failed an attitude test or attracted attention for something else like speeding, like inspecting the car and finding a spare tyre with a puncture etc.

TheDrownedApe

1,329 posts

69 months

Do these countries not have cctv in public places then? Or is this a case of we can but you can't?

fourthpedal

96 posts

17 months

loafer123 said:
https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/po...

Portugal has joined Switzerland, Austria, and Luxembourg in enforcing an outright ban on dash cams, intensifying concerns for summer travelers who may unknowingly violate strict European privacy laws. As these countries treat in-vehicle recording as illegal surveillance, tourists face the risk of hefty fines—up to €25,000 in some cases—for merely possessing or using dash cams, even if they remain switched off. With privacy enforcement tightening across borders, travelers are urged to leave dash cams behind or risk serious legal and financial consequences during their European road trips.
Bad journalism (or fake news). Dash cams are not banned in Switzerland, and no one is enforcing anything, but their use falls into a bit of a grey area: the data protection department doesn't like them if they're used to record continuously, evidence from a dashcam may or may not be admissible in court (depends on the severity of the incident), but no one has actually been prosecuted or otherwise suffered any consequences from using one.

If they're wrong about the first country in the list, they might well be wrong about the others.