Biker murdered for a wheelie

Biker murdered for a wheelie

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v9

Original Poster:

295 posts

61 months

Driver jailed for murdering biker who did wheelie https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd37km83p9o

The dude obviously wasn’t mitigating his risks here, what with the e-bike and no helmet, but to be deliberately killed for it is just crazy.
It’s rare, but reminds me of a time I was chased (briefly) by a chap who was clearly incensed by my filtering quite safely past him in a queue.

ChocolateFrog

31,016 posts

186 months

22 year minimum sentence seems like they've thrown the book at him.

A small part of me wants to high 5 him for doing the nation a favour while also acknowledging you can't do it.

You'd have to be in premeditated serial killer league to get a longer sentence.

tinhead

111 posts

245 months

I wouldn't call him a "biker", ramming him off the road is maybe a bit extreme but they are a royal pita and a danger to actual legal bikers, almost collected by one last week shooting through a red light.

Krikkit

27,320 posts

194 months

ChocolateFrog said:
A small part of me wants to high 5 him for doing the nation a favour while also acknowledging you can't do it.
That seems pretty ridiculous

Pica-Pica

15,032 posts

97 months

ChocolateFrog said:
22 year minimum sentence seems like they've thrown the book at him.

A small part of me wants to high 5 him for doing the nation a favour while also acknowledging you can't do it.

You'd have to be in premeditated serial killer league to get a longer sentence.
Let’s hope that part of you is diminishingly small.

markymarkthree

2,891 posts

184 months

A scrotes life has been taken. I wont be sad but i also wont be cheering.

v9

Original Poster:

295 posts

61 months

I do understand the sentiments expressed about illegal e-bikes, but makes you wonder if it was the bike or the wheelie that caused the reaction. Proper crazy.

ChocolateFrog

31,016 posts

186 months

Pica-Pica said:
ChocolateFrog said:
22 year minimum sentence seems like they've thrown the book at him.

A small part of me wants to high 5 him for doing the nation a favour while also acknowledging you can't do it.

You'd have to be in premeditated serial killer league to get a longer sentence.
Let’s hope that part of you is diminishingly small.
It is obviously but let's not pretend the guy wasn't a criminal who thought he could ride around with impunity. Like they do in my local area because the police won't engage with them incase they hurt themselves.

Biker9090

1,438 posts

50 months

By "Biker" are you referring to someone riding an electric motorcycle without any of the legal means to do so - a CRIMINAL that has no doubt put a great many pedestrians and road users in danger themselves?

Edited by Biker9090 on Monday 12th May 16:35

Krikkit

27,320 posts

194 months

Biker9090 said:
By "Biker" are you referring to someone riding an electric motorcycle without any of the legal means to do so - a CRIMINAL that has no doubt put a great many pedestrians and road users in danger themselves?


KTMsm

28,554 posts

276 months

They must be something more to the story, nobody deliberately runs someone down, just for pulling a wheelie


bitchstewie

57,701 posts

223 months

Sentencing remarks.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/0...

Some people are just wired wrong.

Rubin215

4,145 posts

169 months

KTMsm said:
They must be something more to the story, nobody deliberately runs someone down, just for pulling a wheelie
25'ish years ago, a guy I worked with was pulling a wheelie throught The Meadows in Edinburgh and someone pulled out of the bottom of Marchmont Road and stopped right in front of him deliberately.

Although Stevie was able to bring the bike down and brake, he still went into the side of the car.

Guy was charged with attempted murder and something obscure like 'using a motorised vehicle as a weapon' and got 8 years.

The law seems to take a very dim view of deliberately using cars to hurt people but when it's just "careless" or "accidental" they don't give a monkeys.

CABC

5,913 posts

114 months

something not right looking at the pic on BBC. rider is on the road not the pavement.

v9

Original Poster:

295 posts

61 months

KTMsm said:
They must be something more to the story, nobody deliberately runs someone down, just for pulling a wheelie
On the face of it, and from reading the sentencing remarks, that would appear exactly what he did.

I understand the chap may not have been a pillar of the community, and that he may not fit our definition of a ‘biker’ (that was the BBC’s term, not mine) but I don’t imagine the 19 year old car driver who killed him was sufficiently analytical in his thought processes to make a clear distinction in his mind between ‘proper biker’ and ‘unlicensed scrote’.

richhead

2,230 posts

24 months

A part of me thinks good another ebike riding scrote who wont be nicking stuff anymore and being a menace to everyone.
Another part thinks killing him is a bit harsh.
And the last part is thinking, with him riding like that the guy probably wouldnt have lived long anyway.
But there is sure to be more to this story.

KurtFlew

464 posts

66 months

  • Opens article shocked at what this story would tell me.
  • Sees guilty man's name and location of incident....no longer so shocked.

Biker9090

1,438 posts

50 months

Krikkit said:
And the issue with thinking about the others he put in danger is what exactly????

Personally, I'm sick to the back teeth of illegal electric motorbike - and they ARE motorbikes, not e bikes- riding scumbags puting others at risk. Our area in infested with them. I've almost been run down, so have my dogs and so has a disabled family member.

Did he deserve to die? No.

Was the driver in the wrong? Yes.

But let's not make this out to be some pillar of the biking community or even put his actions in the same camp as an actual biker innocently filtering!


Edited by Biker9090 on Monday 12th May 20:17


Edited by Biker9090 on Monday 12th May 20:18

Starfighter

5,217 posts

191 months

Rubin215 said:
25'ish years ago, a guy I worked with was pulling a wheelie throught The Meadows in Edinburgh and someone pulled out of the bottom of Marchmont Road and stopped right in front of him deliberately.

Although Stevie was able to bring the bike down and brake, he still went into the side of the car.

Guy was charged with attempted murder and something obscure like 'using a motorised vehicle as a weapon' and got 8 years.

The law seems to take a very dim view of deliberately using cars to hurt people but when it's just "careless" or "accidental" they don't give a monkeys.
Why are these laws not used against scrotes that ram cop cars when trying to flee?

nordboy

2,286 posts

63 months

He shouldn't have died for this, that's far too extreme. Not sure what the hell the driver was thinking?

However, these are not e-bikes, they are electric motorbikes, they have a throttle, require licence and insurance, which a tiny minority, if any have. They are the new blight for many people and are the vehicle of choice for criminals these days, as you can't hear them coming and some of them are very quick indeed so ideal for getting away.

E-bikes are pedal assist electric bicycles which are limited to a tad over 15mph before there is active resistance from the motor.