Phase changing material temperature control

Phase changing material temperature control

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Vtekkers

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143 posts

107 months

Seen a few videos over the last few days pushing at Mclaren tyre temps after the dig from redbull and tyre water cooling. how they are managing in it better then the other teams over a race distance, if this is how they are doing it it's very cool, what's your thoughts

https://youtu.be/YTnAZxqD5w4?si=MiWEAOcvzqDmdyzM

White-Noise

5,085 posts

261 months

Saturday
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That's really interesting and that would be a classic kind of Formula One innovation. With all this finger pointing and various different things you would really think that it would be easy to squash any allegations of water being sprayed onto something just by looking at it quite easily. If it is the case I wonder if it would be banned or if it would be something that the other teams will have to catch up with and that will take some time. Thanks for posting the link

CanAm

10,840 posts

285 months

Saturday
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Vtekkers said:
Seen a few videos over the last few days pushing at Mclaren tyre temps after the dig from redbull and tyre water cooling. how they are managing in it better then the other teams over a race distance, if this is how they are doing it it's very cool, what's your thoughts

https://youtu.be/YTnAZxqD5w4?si=MiWEAOcvzqDmdyzM
Red Bull? A phrase involving the words pots and kettles springs to mind.

EmailAddress

14,317 posts

231 months

Saturday
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CanAm said:
Vtekkers said:
Seen a few videos over the last few days pushing at Mclaren tyre temps after the dig from redbull and tyre water cooling. how they are managing in it better then the other teams over a race distance, if this is how they are doing it it's very cool, what's your thoughts

https://youtu.be/YTnAZxqD5w4?si=MiWEAOcvzqDmdyzM
Red Bull? A phrase involving the words pots and kettles springs to mind.
Red Bull screaming at their techs to utilise the catering budget better...


Sandpit Steve

12,275 posts

87 months

Saturday
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That’s an interesting idea, McLaren are clearly doing something right with regard to tyre temperature management and it was noticed back in testing how complex the brake cooling ducts are on their car.

Some fancy new material wouldn’t be a surprise, nor would teams working with aerospace companies and universities about the latest innovations in material science.

What they’re not doing is spraying water around, as Mr Horny was suggesting and Zak Brown was mocking with his drink bottle in Miami.

The car has continually passed scrutineering, so it’s clear that the FIA are happy with the design and implementation. It’s also traditional for the teams to clear these things in advance with Jo Bauer (FIA Technical Delegate to F1, chief scrutineer) and his team.

Personally I love this sort of innovation, it’s a huge amount of what makes a prototype series so exciting to follow.

tele_lover

737 posts

28 months

Saturday
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Sandpit Steve said:
That’s an interesting idea, McLaren are clearly doing something right with regard to tyre temperature management and it was noticed back in testing how complex the brake cooling ducts are on their car.

Some fancy new material wouldn’t be a surprise, nor would teams working with aerospace companies and universities about the latest innovations in material science.

What they’re not doing is spraying water around, as Mr Horny was suggesting and Zak Brown was mocking with his drink bottle in Miami.

The car has continually passed scrutineering, so it’s clear that the FIA are happy with the design and implementation. It’s also traditional for the teams to clear these things in advance with Jo Bauer (FIA Technical Delegate to F1, chief scrutineer) and his team.

Personally I love this sort of innovation, it’s a huge amount of what makes a prototype series so exciting to follow.
Agree RE last paragraph, just a shame it's naturally a tradeoff with good racing (unless all teams innovated).

thegreenhell

18,956 posts

232 months

Yesterday (11:46)
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Gary Anderson thinks it's just some clever air ducting at work.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/clues-emerging-...

Supersam83

960 posts

158 months

Yesterday (21:38)
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Very clever stuff and very much keeping in line with F1 innovation.

The real question is how long will it take for the other top teams to catch up and bring this solution to their cars?

Or will this be something that the top teams will be incorporating into their 2026 cars?