991.2 T Tuning

[991T]

Hi guys - I have a nice yellow stock T - but I need moar... The T is lovely but too civilised and not exciting enough - I need more noise, and more acceleration.
Car is my daily - all year round - mainly b roads, to and from work. will do a bit of touring also - going for NC500 next month. Not really looking at tracking it much if at all, just want a 'special' road car to make every day exciting!

So I'm thinking about tuning or changing it.
I had a test drive in the Litchfield T that's for sale at RPM and tbh it wasn't that much better than stock, sounded similar and was lacking the top end rush I'm looking for. I test drove a 992 GTS and that had much better top end power - but too big and I don't like the interior on 992.

So options are - tune my car - GTS or better turbos and supporting mods £5k - £30k depending on how much tuning. can obviously do it a bit at a time (but lose the Porsche warranty)
Swap to a GT4 - similar money to my car - more raw, sounds better, but lose the 911 kudos.
Swap to a 991.2 Turbo S +20-40k faster, 4wd good for winter, still sounds a bit tame
Swap to a 991.2 GT 3 + 50-70k raw, sounds great but expensive and might be wasted on my daily commute.

Keep changing my mind as to what i want to do so just looking for opinions, suggestions, recommendations etc...

[MDL111]

I feel like switching to a Turbo/Turbo S and maybe getting a louder exhaust might be the best move. It will be heavier though and 4wd, so test drive might be required before deciding....

[MDL111]

or maybe look at something like a McLaren 570 (given you are considering a GT4, I assume you don't need rear seats)? I have not driven one, but people seem to be pretty happy with them.

[GT4P]

Buy a 981 Gt4 get it tuned to circa 450 hp, don’t bother with a 718 you will never get it to sound great and it’s not as raw as a 981 anyway. Bonus is they are pre GPF!
Had a 992.1 Gts for a couple hours a few years and I must say it left me cold, sound wasn’t great either and it lacked in fizz, could have been driving an Audi lol!

Edited by GT4P on Sunday 27th April 18:25

[Grantstown]

You must have some pretty good B roads if 500+bhp/480lb/ft through the rear wheels isn’t enough to find a bit of fun.

[991T]

year 981 GT4 is an option - was thinking 718 for the 4.0 doesn't sound as good as the 981 but more modern, looks nicer and still sounds better than the turbo 3.0 - cheapest option also I guess.

Need to test drive a 991.2 turbo - I drove a 992 Turbo s at PEC and that was mega but probably too fast and 992 is too big for my commute. The 992 gts 1 drove was 4wd and handling was lovely.

McLaren would be epic but i think maintenance, reliability etc probably makes it a no for now

[991T]

Grantstown said:

You must have some pretty good B roads if 500+bhp/480lb/ft through the rear wheels isn’t enough to find a bit of fun.

got a couple of open smooth straights and just looking for that sparkle/thrill/shove as well as more interaction in the slow stuff. The turbo motor is great but coming out of a couple of tuned/exhaust 987 3.4 boxsters the T is just too civilised.

[First Sea Lord]

718 GT4 PDK is a very quick and fun car that feels special but can be used regularly. Definitely suggest you try one

[MDL111]

if you want something that feels more alive and sounds good, what about a 997 GT3. I used my RS quite a lot for daily duties and it was fine imo (well I would get one with aircon if I bought another one as my dog and I did not enjoy summer driving in it)

Edit: like this one - still a 911 and not as expensive as the newer ones
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17930328

[991T]

First Sea Lord said:

718 GT4 PDK is a very quick and fun car that feels special but can be used regularly. Definitely suggest you try one

trying to test drive 1 at my OPC Hatfield but they don't seem particularly helpful.

[991T]

[quote=MDL111]if you want something that feels more alive and sounds good, what about a 997 GT3. I used my RS quite a lot for daily duties and it was fine imo (well I would get one with aircon if I bought another one as my dog and I did not enjoy summer driving in it)

I think if i go gt3 i'd try stretch to 991.2 or at least 991.1 - I never loved the 997 shape and having had the 987 boxsters for 8yrs combined I'm bored of that gem interior. Love the look of 991.2 and the interior.

[MDL111]

991T]DL111 said:

if you want something that feels more alive and sounds good, what about a 997 GT3. I used my RS quite a lot for daily duties and it was fine imo (well I would get one with aircon if I bought another one as my dog and I did not enjoy summer driving in it)

I think if i go gt3 i'd try stretch to 991.2 or at least 991.1 - I never loved the 997 shape and having had the 987 boxsters for 8yrs combined I'm bored of that gem interior. Love the look of 991.2 and the interior.

fair enough - guess 991 it will have to be then

[Grantstown]

991T said:

got a couple of open smooth straights and just looking for that sparkle/thrill/shove as well as more interaction in the slow stuff. The turbo motor is great but coming out of a couple of tuned/exhaust 987 3.4 boxsters the T is just too civilised.

Open top adds something. You can also tune the hell out of a Boxster 2.5T GTS. It won’t have the sound of a 981 GTS though (which can be even more awesome with a lightweight flywheel, shortened final drive, exhaust and map).

[RSTurboPaul]

If you are missing some thrills and interaction and need bonkers power to resolve the issue, it sounds like you need to go vintage 911 with some power mods to make every drive a 'will I die today?' experience that is a lot more memorable


EDIT: Either that or go for an MX5 with a 300bhp engine in the format of your choice - turbo, supercharged, V6...

I believe there are even options to get to 500bhp+ in one of the Japanese V6 options by bolting a massive turbo onto it. I've had a ride in a 300bhp MX5 with no safety equipment - boring it was not

Edited by RSTurboPaul on Sunday 27th April 20:25

[MDL111]

RSTurboPaul said:

If you are missing some thrills and interaction and need bonkers power to resolve the issue, it sounds like you need to go vintage 911 with some power mods to make every drive a 'will I die today?' experience that is a lot more memorable

I thought about proposing a 996 or 997 GT2 as a halfway house.

[RSTurboPaul]

MDL111 said:

I thought about proposing a 996 or 997 GT2 as a halfway house.

Aren't they all crazy money now? Although I am aware that even base 911s seem to end up at 100k these days, so perhaps the GT2s are not that much more?!

[Grantstown]

MDL111 said:

I thought about proposing a 996 or 997 GT2 as a halfway house.

Great point. If one of those doesn’t excite you then someone needs to check your pulse!

[Hedgeman]

"More noise, more acceleration, use as a daily all year round...without McLaren maintenance/reliability..."

Take a drive of an Audi R8 v10 plus (or regular v10). I have one, as well as a 992 Turbo S Cab, and they are quite different cars. I suspect it will provide what is missing.

[991T]

Hedgeman said:

"More noise, more acceleration, use as a daily all year round...without McLaren maintenance/reliability..."

Take a drive of an Audi R8 v10 plus (or regular v10). I have one, as well as a 992 Turbo S Cab, and they are quite different cars. I suspect it will provide what is missing.

Test drove a v10 gen2 coupe (not plus) before I got the T, it wasn't as good as i was hoping, I think a plus spider would probably be awesome but - no good to go touring in and too wide the my daily commute!

[991T]

RSTurboPaul said:

If you are missing some thrills and interaction and need bonkers power to resolve the issue, it sounds like you need to go vintage 911 with some power mods to make every drive a 'will I die today?' experience that is a lot more memorable


EDIT: Either that or go for an MX5 with a 300bhp engine in the format of your choice - turbo, supercharged, V6...

I believe there are even options to get to 500bhp+ in one of the Japanese V6 options by bolting a massive turbo onto it. I've had a ride in a 300bhp MX5 with no safety equipment - boring it was not

Edited by RSTurboPaul on Sunday 27th April 20:25

I want to stay in something that looks special - has the kudos so I think Porsche is probably the way to go for me. I think coming originally from super bikes I'm missing the visceral rush of a 180bhp 180kg machine. I think it's just Sunday dreaming, window shopping, chit chat. I did think about a GT4RS - think that might be as close to a suoerbike experience for 'sensible' money that there is. Still £130k + though and might be too extreme... If only I had the room, and money for 2 cars and a bike...