Used EV £20K - ioniq5 or...

[TooLateForAName]

I'm looking to spend up to £20k on a used EV.

Ioniq 5 looks like the obvious choice because range, charging speed and size.

I'm aware of the iccu and rear wiper issues.

Thought about enyaq/q4 etron but slower charging, less warranty, vag parts locking.

Anything else worth looking at?

[Rough101]

The EQA, but only if a super range isn’t top of your list.

It’s the least plasticky of the options.

[plfrench]

All i would add is that max charging speed isn’t really worth getting too hung up on unless you can’t charge at home and / or are routinely needing to charge publicly due to long journeys. Might sound obvious, but it’s a bit of an irrelevance otherwise.

[TooLateForAName]

Rough101 said:

The EQA, but only if a super range isn’t top of your list.

It’s the least plasticky of the options.

Seems quite small in the back though?

[TooLateForAName]

plfrench said:

All i would add is that max charging speed isn’t really worth getting too hung up on unless you can’t charge at home and / or are routinely needing to charge publicly due to long journeys. Might sound obvious, but it’s a bit of an irrelevance otherwise.

I do get that.

We can mainly charge at home OK, but we have two sets of elderly parents. If we needed to get to one of them fast I wouldnt want to have to worry about charging for 30 mins on the way.

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

Tesla
Renault
Jaguar
Polestar
Jeep
MG

Tons of choices at the moment.

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[Rough101]

TooLateForAName said:

Seems quite small in the back though?

Boot is very small, in the back, the issue is the seat is too low in relation to the floor for adults.

Depends on what you need.

[rfn]

The Ioniq5 is an excellent car. We did ~10k miles in ours in 6 months before it went back due to redundancy. Now they've dropped to semi-sensible prices I've been tempted to purchase one.

[Otispunkmeyer]

plfrench said:

All i would add is that max charging speed isn’t really worth getting too hung up on unless you can’t charge at home and / or are routinely needing to charge publicly due to long journeys. Might sound obvious, but it’s a bit of an irrelevance otherwise.

This. We've got an EV6 so same battery set at the Ioniq5. We've seen it's peak 235kW rate all of about 2 times.

To get it, you need to have the battery preconditioned and then you need a capable charger. Most of the time the chargers aren't capable (even if their name plate says so, they never give full beans if other stalls are being used in my experience).

Anywhere between 50 and 150kW seems de rigueur so as long as the car you chose can do that I wouldn't worry.

(Weirdly we stopped at an Applegreen 180kW charger the other day and it sat there merrily at 232kW for a good time)

[Benny Saltstein]

Until six months ago I'd have said a Model 3. A 2021 onwards Chinese made car was certainly worth looking at. If you can live with the stigma probably a bargain now as well.

[TooLateForAName]

Benny Saltstein said:

Until six months ago I'd have said a Model 3. A 2021 onwards Chinese made car was certainly worth looking at. If you can live with the stigma probably a bargain now as well.

No musk related options.

[Benny Saltstein]

TooLateForAName said:

No musk related options.

100% with you on that.

[PugwasHDJ80]

Our Ioniq 5 blows a model three out of the water and is genuinely one of the best cars I've ever owned l. Lack of a rear wiper is a pain, but really not a large issue.

[krisdelta]

For that money you’ll get a very nice HSE iPace or ID.4, very different drives but both great cars. Plenty of room in both, iPace more luxurious, ID.4 more modern in what is a fast paced market.

[PetrolHeadInRecovery]

TooLateForAName said:

I'm looking to spend up to £20k on a used EV.

Ioniq 5 looks like the obvious choice because range, charging speed and size.

I'm aware of the iccu and rear wiper issues.

Thought about enyaq/q4 etron but slower charging, less warranty, vag parts locking.

Anything else worth looking at?

Assuming your use case is similar to ours (cross-continent trips with frequent 900-1300km days), I'd check if KIA EV6 or Ioniq 6 would be big enough. Longer range, same charging speed, no special coolant for the battery (it used to be very expensive, now ok in most markets).

We have done over 60,000km on our Ioniq 5, and been very happy with it (EV6 felt too small and Ioniq 6 wasn't on the market). Range suffers a bit at speed or headwind (even with the hateful ECO mode). Not a real issue in most of the EU, lots of chargers where you get the 200kW average from 10 to 80%.

[Jiebo]

Rough101 said:

The EQA, but only if a super range isn’t top of your list.

It’s the least plasticky of the options.

Test drove the EQA, found it extremely underwhelming. Ride wasn’t great poor, interior was cheap, already looking tacky and a few squeaks. It won’t age well at all.

[Rough101]

Jiebo said:

Test drove the EQA, found it extremely underwhelming. Ride wasn’t great poor, interior was cheap, already looking tacky and a few squeaks. It won’t age well at all.

A friend is on his second, ride is certainly stiff, no squeaks. Nicer place inside than an ID3/4, Etron equivalent or Ionic 5.

Ionic is best looking outside.

[robemcdonald]

Rough101 said:

The EQA, but only if a super range isn’t top of your list.

It’s the least plasticky of the options.

I had an eqa350 for 3 months. It was st.

[Rough101]

robemcdonald said:

I had an eqa350 for 3 months. It was st.

Yeah, but compared to its direct EV competitors?

[Luke.]

How about an EQC? Way better than the EQA. In every way. Done 10k in ours in the last year. Love it. Had an EQA while the EQC was in for a service - terrible car in comparison. Felt far, far cheaper.