Why no Coupe Body for EV's

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Gargamel

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Sunday 13th April
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Possibility that I need a car for city to city commute once a week its 300km one way. I can charge either end, on a about a third of that its unrestricted autobahn.

So criteria

Its only me, so no SUV needed
I don't need four doors
Would lease not buy and its company anyway so Tesla S kind of money.
Should be as quick as possible, certainly 200KMH.
Obviously on a sustained 180kmh + the battery o'meter is visibly draining so 400kmh range minimum (ideally it would be possible to make the run with no charging.

Looking around anything thats two seats is 'concept' level and the range looks a bit st.

Tesla S is the obvious answer, but what am I missing. I would have something fun/coupe/convetible no problem - seems a little dull out there.

Love the Alpine A110 - but again range at 360km - probably won't make it at speed.

Open to suggestions





Deep Thought

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charltjr

366 posts

21 months

Sunday 13th April
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MG Cyberster is probably the only thing out there which ticks the convertible box at the moment. Range and performance are just about in line with what you are asking for.

plfrench

3,318 posts

280 months

Sunday 13th April
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Maserati Granturismo Folgore?

Or stretching the budget even further Rolls Royce Spectre

raspy

1,930 posts

106 months

Monday 14th April
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EQS drag coefficient of 0.20 - you need something as slippery as possible for those unrestricted autobahn runs in an EV.

Tractor Driver

160 posts

42 months

Monday 14th April
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I think Ford would like you to believe that the Capri EV is a coupe!

SWoll

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270 months

Monday 14th April
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raspy said:
EQS drag coefficient of 0.20 - you need something as slippery as possible for those unrestricted autobahn runs in an EV.
Yep. The only EV to stand a chance would be the EQS 450+

ShortBeardy

236 posts

156 months

Monday 14th April
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Model Y production line drops the cabin onto the floorpan/battery assembly. The cabin floor & seats etc. are all in place prior to bolting the top on... i.e. makes it looks like an ideal kit car donor like the 70s style `drop a nova body onto a VW beetle'.

CLK-GTR

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257 months

Monday 14th April
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Why does it have to be an EV? This sounds like the worst possible usage for one, 300km at high speed. I think you'll be lucky to find anything that can reliably do that let alone anything you like.

This is what AMG/M/RS are built for. Audi RS etron GT might make it.

Edited by CLK-GTR on Monday 14th April 08:11

PetrolHeadInRecovery

241 posts

27 months

Monday 14th April
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Ioniq 6N should be available in July. Too many doors and seats?

Gargamel

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CLK-GTR said:
Why does it have to be an EV? This sounds like the worst possible usage for one, 300km at high speed. I think you'll be lucky to find anything that can reliably do that let alone anything you like.

This is what AMG/M/RS are built for. Audi RS etron GT might make it.

Edited by CLK-GTR on Monday 14th April 08:11
I live in Amsterdam, so you can't get a parking permit on a non EV car for like 18 months or so...
These are the constraints.




Gargamel

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Yeah that Audi is a weapon for sure.

Its a four door though, So I was just curious why there aren't more Coupe bodies available yet.



SWoll

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Gargamel said:
So I was just curious why there aren't more Coupe bodies available yet.
For the same reason as there are so few EV estate or 2 seaters options. The potential market isn't there yet to justify them, SUVs and hatchbacks are the big sellers.

Quattr04.

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Monday 14th April
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BEVs batteries are quite deep which means the floor is a bit higher, so it needs a lot of styling to hide them, which is why there’s so many EV SUVs

If you look at the polestar 2 that’s a saloon but it sits much higher than any other saloon does, same with the Tesla model 3

Also, coupes aren’t popular in general now, which is probably why bmw don’t offer a i4 coupe.

Polestar 1 is the only other one I can think of

Juan B

488 posts

16 months

Monday 14th April
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Citroen Ami, or Rolls Royce Spectre are pretty much the only 2 door coupe EV options. So is your budget 5k or 500k?

SWoll

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Monday 14th April
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Quattr04. said:
BEVs batteries are quite deep which means the floor is a bit higher, so it needs a lot of styling to hide them, which is why there’s so many EV SUVs

If you look at the polestar 2 that’s a saloon but it sits much higher than any other saloon does, same with the Tesla model 3

Also, coupes aren’t popular in general now, which is probably why bmw don’t offer a i4 coupe.

Polestar 1 is the only other one I can think of
There are so may EV SUV's as SUVs are the most popular category of car regardless of powertrain. The fact it makes the battery easy to place is just a bonus for manufacturers.

Edited by SWoll on Monday 14th April 14:21

plfrench

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Juan B said:
Citroen Ami, or Rolls Royce Spectre are pretty much the only 2 door coupe EV options. So is your budget 5k or 500k?
And Maserati Granturismo Folgore

Murph7355

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268 months

Monday 14th April
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Packaging and market are the main reasons for few two doors/coupes.

The latest gen Taycan *should* get you your 300km,BUT range falls off a cliff over 90mph. I would recommend a test drive to see how far you can realistically get.

Fortunately charge speed is very good, so a splash n dash to finish off would be quick.

4 doors, but they drive well and (IMO) look good.

Folgore's nice enough but not a dedicated EV platform and twice the price.

Pretty much nothing else drives as nicely as a Taycan on the EV front IMO. They're very good steers even compared with "normal" cars.


Murph7355

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PS the A110 is petrol. A290 is the (R5 hatchback) EV.

Gargamel

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We have the LR Polestar II - range is 450 km but realistically its about 420.

I did the drive in that, at 150 kmh plus, the range really drops. It did make it quite comfortably in the end as two thirds of the time its speed restricted so only about 80 - 90k is open.

So yeah - it can do it as can several saloons. Just wanted something a bit funner.