AI

[Gt6turbo]

Seems it is a hot topic and can do some amazing things.

But also it fails in very simples things, like comparisons for example.

I also generated an AI image and asked it to check if the image it generated yesterday, was an AI image.

It said it was real.

The issue I see is data scraping will introduce bias.

[Narcisus]

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

[Terminator X]

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

[Narcisus]

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

Congratulations great post

[Zetec-S]

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

I was sceptical but a few weeks ago asked ChatGPT to write me a simple excel macro. Took me a couple of minutes from writing the request to using it in my workbook.

I can see me using it again occasionally, I don't have time to learn Visual Basic, it's not part of my job and does not interest me.

[Derek Smith]

Gt6turbo said:

Seems it is a hot topic and can do some amazing things.

But also it fails in very simples things, like comparisons for example.

I also generated an AI image and asked it to check if the image it generated yesterday, was an AI image.

It said it was real.

The issue I see is data scraping will introduce bias.

My daughter-in-law used to run a fair-sized business of search engine optimised copy, having dozens of creators on her books. When AI started, she moved her focus business but still does a bit of SEO. A new, and probably short-lived, business is correcting AI generated SEO copy. She reckons there's been little improvement since she started. She can spot AI-generated blog content within the first paragraph. To be fair, AI can spot it as well.

[eein]

It's not the 'do everything and anything' that the media and AI companies would like you to think. It's good in some places and poor in others. The skill we all have to now learn is how and when to use AI tools and how to judge whether the output is good or not.

This is no different that when you got the internet initially (for those old enough) and you had to learn how to search when search engines came along and how to judge whether the pages you read are real or not.

Education systems are struggling to get on top of this, largely due to these tools appearing so suddenly. I've seen some examples of schools moving on from 'banning' anything AI related to instead trying to educate children on how to use them and exert judgement as I mentioned above.

AI will keep getting better, but it will never replace every function we do. I've written a number of papers on this looking at how to use and not use it today, and trying to predict how this will play out over the next 10-20 years. Interesting area, one that many cannot afford to miss, yet some degree of caution is required.

Interestingly many of the limitations of current AI tools are the same limitations that have existed for decades. I first created some ML models for speaker recognition in the 90s, and encountered a number of limitations that are still the basis of the limitations today. Ultimately the AI tools you are using today are based on the same technical mechanisms that were created in the 70s. They are simple running at larger and faster speeds. There is plenty of research in to fundamentally different types of AI, but these are not (yet) in the tools you are using. You're still playing with 70s tech!

[StoutBench]

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

Found the dinosaur.

[skyebear]

I can't seem to find the thread but someone on here posted a great link to a video explaining how AI works in the context of ChatGPT and similar.

Edit: found the vid https://youtu.be/zjkBMFhNj_g?si=U6QoSA5g1gPCiF22

Edited by skyebear on Friday 11th April 11:26

[MesoForm]

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

This is where it currently is - if you asked it to create a new filename based on the contents of the file you'd have to go in and check what it had done, and probably find it didn't get it right all of the time but for small tasks like this, creating a small Excel macro where you can easily see the results, it's really handy.
As a programmer for me it's replacing Google for getting the right syntax - I ask it to create a small chunk of code, then copy and paste that into my code and start adapting that for what I need.

[bigpriest]

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

That's not AI though is it? Surely a Google search would have returned the same results referencing several forums where solutions would have been explained. Just curious. Might be a dinosaur.

[phil4]

It's usefulness depends very much what you want it to do... as some have said the generation stuff like chatgpt is great at some stuff and lousy at others, but that's the stuff you're asking for... there's other tasks and AI's that can or can't do other things.

But even for the generative stuff, if you've a boring job for a big corp that is a bit like the Stanley Parable... sure AI is going to replace you. Likewise it might assist you if you work in a slightly more skilled area. But it's not so good at helping a software developer in an SME working on a 20 year old bit of software, there's just not enough time to explain (and the code isn't going to help) what you want it to do, and all the things it has to work around.

And perhaps that is an area people will soon realise. In the same way that the first web page designer software meant people could create a webpage without knowing HTML, so will AI, but the issue then comes with coming up with the requirements, in sufficient detail, as to what you want. An age old problem for developers and designers - requirements gathering.

[21TonyK]

StoutBench said:

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

Found the dinosaur.

I don't think that's completely fair. Experience (sometimes) gives you a broader view of things. AI is in its infancy, it will find its place. In the meantime there is a of inappropriate use for the novelty value. Using it to produce code is obviously a massive time saving as long as it is subject to the same level of testing and scrutiny with skilled oversight.

[dirty boy]

I often write something containing all I want it to contain, then ask ChatGpt to remove any repetition of points, make more concise for a non-technical reader and 9/10 the content is suitable with the 1/10 only needing a little adjustment.

It's got its place as people say, just knowing when to use.

[Dingu]

21TonyK said:

StoutBench said:

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

Found the dinosaur.

I don't think that's completely fair. Experience (sometimes) gives you a broader view of things. AI is in its infancy, it will find its place. In the meantime there is a of inappropriate use for the novelty value. Using it to produce code is obviously a massive time saving as long as it is subject to the same level of testing and scrutiny with skilled oversight.

It’s totally fair based on the comment it was responding to. It wouldn’t be fair in response to what you said which has actual nuance and a valid point.

[StoutBench]

Dingu said:

21TonyK said:

StoutBench said:

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

Found the dinosaur.

I don't think that's completely fair. Experience (sometimes) gives you a broader view of things. AI is in its infancy, it will find its place. In the meantime there is a of inappropriate use for the novelty value. Using it to produce code is obviously a massive time saving as long as it is subject to the same level of testing and scrutiny with skilled oversight.

It’s totally fair based on the comment it was responding to. It wouldn’t be fair in response to what you said which has actual nuance and a valid point.

The original poster said he used AI to save himself time and teach himself how to do it. You said 'lose 1 IQ point'

It was an absolutely ridiculous comment and one very much stuck in the stone age. Don't use it and you'll get left behind pure and simple.

[Downward]

dirty boy said:

I often write something containing all I want it to contain, then ask ChatGpt to remove any repetition of points, make more concise for a non-technical reader and 9/10 the content is suitable with the 1/10 only needing a little adjustment.

It's got its place as people say, just knowing when to use.

Yes i would like to see how it could be used better. For me it’s just putting reports in a better way because you get snow blind typing all the time.

[StoutBench]

dirty boy said:

I often write something containing all I want it to contain, then ask ChatGpt to remove any repetition of points, make more concise for a non-technical reader and 9/10 the content is suitable with the 1/10 only needing a little adjustment.

It's got its place as people say, just knowing when to use.

I find this one of the most helpful uses, I use it to pick up on my use of industry lingo whilst adjusting the reading age to lower for clients.

I find it makes my emails shorter, removes any repetition, saves my client reading time by being more concise with less questions coming back. All while empowering the client with understanding of what we are doing for them.

[eein]

StoutBench said:

Dingu said:

21TonyK said:

StoutBench said:

Terminator X said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

You lose 1 IQ point every time you use it.

TX.

Found the dinosaur.

I don't think that's completely fair. Experience (sometimes) gives you a broader view of things. AI is in its infancy, it will find its place. In the meantime there is a of inappropriate use for the novelty value. Using it to produce code is obviously a massive time saving as long as it is subject to the same level of testing and scrutiny with skilled oversight.

It’s totally fair based on the comment it was responding to. It wouldn’t be fair in response to what you said which has actual nuance and a valid point.

The original poster said he used AI to save himself time and teach himself how to do it. You said 'lose 1 IQ point'

It was an absolutely ridiculous comment and one very much stuck in the stone age. Don't use it and you'll get left behind pure and simple.

From where I'm sitting all you people writing software are losing 1,000's of IQ points. At my most lazy I'll maybe come up to writing some machine code, although I think everyone should be down at VHDL and gate design, if not transistors. You lot all regressed to being Neanderthals when you started with your C, then C++, then Java, then scripting, then being so lazy you looked up webpages and githubs for existing code, some of you even call libraries in your code!

There's a physicist sitting near me in the office laughing at how dumb I must be while they're solving their problems by moving electrons up and down band gaps.

[eein]

bigpriest said:

Narcisus said:

I asked ChatGPT to write me a little script today that removes the first 3 characters of a file name.

Took seconds and also gave me a nice rundown on how the script worked.

Saved me a good couple hours for 10 seconds of typing !

That's not AI though is it? Surely a Google search would have returned the same results referencing several forums where solutions would have been explained. Just curious. Might be a dinosaur.

Typically the way these assistants work is the AI part is interpreting your natural language question into tokens of vectors it can use to perform a (relatively) normal search operation. It then uses the AI LLM models to read the results and generate a response relevant to your question and to form the natural language in the response.

So you're right in that the search part is not really what the now fangled AI thing is doing. The AI is saving you time reading and interpreting what you read.

I mostly use co-pilot as a quicker way to search. However I will tend to only use it where I'm confident the answer is out there and a / the right answer will be statistically dominant. LLMs are statistical machines, so excel where stats are in your favour, whereas they struggle when the answer is in the minority, or you are looking for a counter factual outcomes - your human brain can often interpret and decide to go with an uncommon result, the LLMs cannot.