Trolley / transmission jack?
Discussion
Evening all,
I do a reasonable amount of car diy, and have a decentish 2.25 tonnes sealey jack.
When I have done clutches before I've always just manhandled the box on my stomach down and up again (not exactly sure how as I last did one 10 years ago!)
Now though I'm thinking of getting a transmission jack.
Specifically a cradle adaptor that can sit on a trolley jack.
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/1?q=transm...
£30 from Ebay seems totally reasonable, whereas I am less keen to buy a £200 ish specific transmission jack affair that i will use maybe 3 or 4 times again.
The cradle I'm looking says it fits over a 30mm saddle hole, but whilst my sealey jack has a removable saddle, there is a pivot bar directly under the hole making it impossible fit the transmission jack adapter onto.
I would be happy to get another trolley jack though, especially with a bit more height, say up to 500mm.
So i have a couple of questions
- does anyone know of or can recommend a reasonably decent trolley jack with a removable saddle that leaves beind a 30mm hole? The cheapest 2 tonnes ones tend to have welded on saddles.
- has anyone improvised anything cunning to more easily get a gearbox off and on again?
This is being done using axle stands on a drive. It's a 5 series 6 speed getrag box if that helps.
Thanks
I do a reasonable amount of car diy, and have a decentish 2.25 tonnes sealey jack.
When I have done clutches before I've always just manhandled the box on my stomach down and up again (not exactly sure how as I last did one 10 years ago!)
Now though I'm thinking of getting a transmission jack.
Specifically a cradle adaptor that can sit on a trolley jack.
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/1?q=transm...
£30 from Ebay seems totally reasonable, whereas I am less keen to buy a £200 ish specific transmission jack affair that i will use maybe 3 or 4 times again.
The cradle I'm looking says it fits over a 30mm saddle hole, but whilst my sealey jack has a removable saddle, there is a pivot bar directly under the hole making it impossible fit the transmission jack adapter onto.
I would be happy to get another trolley jack though, especially with a bit more height, say up to 500mm.
So i have a couple of questions
- does anyone know of or can recommend a reasonably decent trolley jack with a removable saddle that leaves beind a 30mm hole? The cheapest 2 tonnes ones tend to have welded on saddles.
- has anyone improvised anything cunning to more easily get a gearbox off and on again?
This is being done using axle stands on a drive. It's a 5 series 6 speed getrag box if that helps.
Thanks
I don't think that is designed to fit a trolley jack. It seems to be designed to sit on top of a telescopic wheeled stand.
I've seen the Sealey adapter advertised. I don't get quite what stops the adapter toppling off the jack, but presumably something does. I've seen 'trolley jack transmission stand adapter' on ebay which look similar for a fraction of the price. You pays your money and takes your choice. I'm not sure I'd be cutting corners on something that was going to be holding a heavy and expensive transmission over me.
I've seen the Sealey adapter advertised. I don't get quite what stops the adapter toppling off the jack, but presumably something does. I've seen 'trolley jack transmission stand adapter' on ebay which look similar for a fraction of the price. You pays your money and takes your choice. I'm not sure I'd be cutting corners on something that was going to be holding a heavy and expensive transmission over me.
having hurt my leg quite badly trying to balance a box on a trolley jack and it subsequently falling off, i got a proper transmission jack and it made life massively easier.
One key difference between a trolley jack and a trans jack is that the latter is on casters, so makes manoeuvring the box into place far easier.
Because i was doing box and transfer box I made a cradle for mine - as i was pulling the box out every few weeks initially
https://mez.co.uk/chevy700r4pg5-new.html
One key difference between a trolley jack and a trans jack is that the latter is on casters, so makes manoeuvring the box into place far easier.
Because i was doing box and transfer box I made a cradle for mine - as i was pulling the box out every few weeks initially
https://mez.co.uk/chevy700r4pg5-new.html
Thanks both
I might have linked the wrong thing but this was the type of thing I had in mind
It seems to have a bolt through the base to secure the cradle to the jack. Though notice a lot ofntransmissjacks are far wider than typical trolley jack, which will be prone to toppling over I think with a gearbox on them.
Anyway, I am changing approach somewhat and getting a lifting platform affair which I can also use for my bike.
The idea (hope) is can have the platform under the gearbox and lever it away and withdraw it reasonably safely.
It seems more stable than a jack, but won't have castors so I will probably drag it off with some old carpet or similar.
I might have linked the wrong thing but this was the type of thing I had in mind
It seems to have a bolt through the base to secure the cradle to the jack. Though notice a lot ofntransmissjacks are far wider than typical trolley jack, which will be prone to toppling over I think with a gearbox on them.
Anyway, I am changing approach somewhat and getting a lifting platform affair which I can also use for my bike.
The idea (hope) is can have the platform under the gearbox and lever it away and withdraw it reasonably safely.
It seems more stable than a jack, but won't have castors so I will probably drag it off with some old carpet or similar.
If I remove my gearbox again I will be getting gone of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
autohead said:
If I remove my gearbox again I will be getting gone of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
That looks like a good deal for the price. Shame it doesn't have a tilting bed on it, but I haven't seen any scissor style lifts that do.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
Cut yourself some wedges from offcuts of timber (eg 38x63 cls), great for steadying & levelling a gearbox on any platform, even on the bench. My trans hoist has multi levelling screws, but it's much quicker to just advance a wedge a smidgeon to lift or roll a g'box a few degrees.
Typically tapering from 0 to 35mm over a length of 150 or 200mm, they're a cinch to make on a chop saw. They come in handy for so many things around the workshop/home, you'll wonder how you managed before!
Typically tapering from 0 to 35mm over a length of 150 or 200mm, they're a cinch to make on a chop saw. They come in handy for so many things around the workshop/home, you'll wonder how you managed before!
autohead said:
If I remove my gearbox again I will be getting gone of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
Gets my vote, have had one of these a good few years now. Makes the job fairly painless. Also usefull if dropping and refitting a rear diff and subframe on your own too.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
Have seen a few pop up SH on FB marketplace for less than half new costs.
Hi all
Yes that draper looks pretty good to be honest
Though then price put me off a bit.
I had to pause this job as my 1/2 inch star sockets were too fat to fit into the bots so waited for 3/8 ones to turn up, then ran out of weekend (or at least got on with other jobs instead)..
So I will be trying with this set up at the weekend
Note the prime oak kitchen worktop offcut there - which I've been doing in my other spare time
Yes that draper looks pretty good to be honest
Though then price put me off a bit.
I had to pause this job as my 1/2 inch star sockets were too fat to fit into the bots so waited for 3/8 ones to turn up, then ran out of weekend (or at least got on with other jobs instead)..
So I will be trying with this set up at the weekend
Note the prime oak kitchen worktop offcut there - which I've been doing in my other spare time
Yeah it's a motorcycle stand (i have a bike too)
As a final update, the cluch change went pretty well today.
The stand is wider than a jack so didn't topple when shoving it around.
I had originally strapped the box down to it to remove, but the gertrag box is both quite light and has a reasonably flat bottom. So it rested on the stand pretty well. It did need a bit more height, so on refitting I used a 4x2 on its side to give 50mm more, which was enough.
The patform was also big and stable enough so I could shuffle the box on to the engine quite painlessly, but did need to lift the engine up so it wasn't drooping to mate them together.
The draper one looked probably the best tool for what i described but I have a gravel drive (with just a strip of slabs under the wheels) which makes castors a pita, and the stand was a third of the price.
The clutch and flywheel definitely needed doing
I will be doing the swifts clutch in the next year (given its high pedal) but tbh as i'm heading towards 50 there's probably more enjoyable ways to spend a sunny Saturday. Hence why I don't want to spend too much on such a specific tool.
As a final update, the cluch change went pretty well today.
The stand is wider than a jack so didn't topple when shoving it around.
I had originally strapped the box down to it to remove, but the gertrag box is both quite light and has a reasonably flat bottom. So it rested on the stand pretty well. It did need a bit more height, so on refitting I used a 4x2 on its side to give 50mm more, which was enough.
The patform was also big and stable enough so I could shuffle the box on to the engine quite painlessly, but did need to lift the engine up so it wasn't drooping to mate them together.
The draper one looked probably the best tool for what i described but I have a gravel drive (with just a strip of slabs under the wheels) which makes castors a pita, and the stand was a third of the price.
The clutch and flywheel definitely needed doing
I will be doing the swifts clutch in the next year (given its high pedal) but tbh as i'm heading towards 50 there's probably more enjoyable ways to spend a sunny Saturday. Hence why I don't want to spend too much on such a specific tool.
autohead said:
If I remove my gearbox again I will be getting gone of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
Oooh, thanks for posting that. Might have to buy one of those, I have another clutch to do soon.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226344056056?chn=ps&...
Used to rely on muscling the 'box in and out, but one day my luck will run out...
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