Are all automatics like this
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So I’ve got a auto Astra as a courtesy car, if you stop at a junction , take foot off brake it starts to drive forward ( as if your foot is lightly applied to the accelerator ) , the only way you can stop it is shift it to neutral , is that normal ?
I would of expected it to change into neutral itself , or even if it changed into first , I’d not expect it to creep forward until you pushed the accelerator
I was considering an automatic but this is putting me off , only ever drove manual cars so no experience of automatic , lorry I have & they don’t do it .
Most autos I have driven give you a way to choose whether the car creeps or sits still when you remove your feet from the pedals, different approaches for different brands. On a BMW there's a Hold button, on my Merc you press the brake pedal twice to hold it.
Only really basic/ older autos require you to do this manually with the handbrake.
Only really basic/ older autos require you to do this manually with the handbrake.
Gas1883 said:
Thankyou , so you either change into neutral or sit there with foot on the brake ?
Put me off auto,s to be honest , I assumed it was a Vauxhall issue .
Sit there with your foot on the brake. The fact they creep forward when you lift off the brake is one of the main reasons for having one.Put me off auto,s to be honest , I assumed it was a Vauxhall issue .
Gas1883 said:
Thankyou , so you either change into neutral or sit there with foot on the brake ?
Put me off auto,s to be honest , I assumed it was a Vauxhall issue .
1) it is not just a Vauxhall issue. 2) No, you can also press park. On my F30, it will only (when conditions allow) stop the engine in D with foot on service brake, or in Park.Put me off auto,s to be honest , I assumed it was a Vauxhall issue .
I use my own judgement and consideration of other road users whether I hold on the service (foot) brake, or use N or P.
Don’t let it put you off autos, ‘creep’ can be a useful feature. Especially when traffic lights start to change, creep will take away that harsh initial movement.
E63eeeeee... said:
Most autos I have driven give you a way to choose whether the car creeps or sits still when you remove your feet from the pedals, different approaches for different brands. On a BMW there's a Hold button, on my Merc you press the brake pedal twice to hold it.
Only really basic/ older autos require you to do this manually with the handbrake.
An F30 will hold on a hill on the footbrake pedal, then when you take your foot off it will still hold on the hill until you press the accelerator pedal - very effective and very useful. I still have the hand lever parking brake for, well, parking. To me that is the best of all worlds.Only really basic/ older autos require you to do this manually with the handbrake.
........Or you could apply the handbrake (in drive) and it should safely hold the car stationary, without blinding the driver behind with your brake lights.
Its fairly normal but not all autos do it. (Whether that's because I've driven ones which should do, but didn't, is another thing!!)
Its fairly normal but not all autos do it. (Whether that's because I've driven ones which should do, but didn't, is another thing!!)
paul_c123 said:
........Or you could apply the handbrake (in drive) and it should safely hold the car stationary, without blinding the driver behind with your brake lights.
It’s fairly normal but not all autos do it. (Whether that's because I've driven ones which should do, but didn't, is another thing!!)
In your suggestion, I would apply the handbrake (if not level) and use Park or Neutral.It’s fairly normal but not all autos do it. (Whether that's because I've driven ones which should do, but didn't, is another thing!!)
I sometimes think anyone passing a test in a manual, should take a further test for an automatic (!).
Gas1883 said:
Thankyou , so you either change into neutral or sit there with foot on the brake ?
Put me off auto,s to be honest , I assumed it was a Vauxhall issue .
Or put it in hold, or put the handbrake on. No reason to let it put you off, you'll just get used to it and while it's a bit unnerving at first it'll feel completely normal before you know it. I swap continually between two autos with different hold mechanisms, and manuals with manual handbrakes and it's never an issue. Put me off auto,s to be honest , I assumed it was a Vauxhall issue .
I've always tried to avoid automatics, but have had 4 torque convertor autos and the all creeped.
I just kept my foot on the brake at traffic lights or put them into neutral and applied the handbrake for longer stops like level crossings, etc.
As others have said the creeping is handy for parking and similar manoeuvres.
I just kept my foot on the brake at traffic lights or put them into neutral and applied the handbrake for longer stops like level crossings, etc.
As others have said the creeping is handy for parking and similar manoeuvres.
As above, the creep is a good thing once you get used to it - useful for low speed trundling along in traffic, parking and also just for gentle moving forward off the line.
I once drove a motorhome with an automated manual that didn't do it and it was bloody awful, setting off uphill meant either rolling back or then suddenly launching off the line with a chirp of the tyres once you got on the throttle. Despite lots of experimenting I never really worked it out - maybe it was broken in fairness.
I once drove a motorhome with an automated manual that didn't do it and it was bloody awful, setting off uphill meant either rolling back or then suddenly launching off the line with a chirp of the tyres once you got on the throttle. Despite lots of experimenting I never really worked it out - maybe it was broken in fairness.
Just to contrast a few above….we have a Kona electric, and that has the option for “creep” or not.
Makes far more sense to me to NOT creep forwards. Once I have halted the car, just stay stopped!!
The creep was a “feature” of all old automatics, so I guess some here like the old ways because they are familiar.
Makes far more sense to me to NOT creep forwards. Once I have halted the car, just stay stopped!!
The creep was a “feature” of all old automatics, so I guess some here like the old ways because they are familiar.
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