Emergency Spare Wheel Use

Emergency Spare Wheel Use

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RED5RACING

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32 posts

109 months

Thursday
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My neighbour, who owns a Golf GTD has been driving around since early January this year with an emergency spare wheel fitted to the nearside front corner.

He drives daily on this commuting around ten miles a day and at times carries his children in the car.

The purpose of these spare wheels is of course simply to enable you to get to a tyre repair centre or home to replace the damaged tyre.

I can’t imagine these skinny tyres are designed to withstand the heat generated and surely they can’t provide much grip particularly on a diesel engine with its torque.

Besides the safety aspect is there anything that can be done from a legal standpoint?

The guy is a total mouth breathing knuckle dragger and I’m not sure he’d take a single word on board if I were to discuss this with him.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,351 posts

55 months

Thursday
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Often thought it would be hilarious to fit 4 spacesavvers and check out the handling.

SS427 Camaro

6,970 posts

182 months

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RED5RACING said:
My neighbour, who owns a Golf GTD has been driving around since early January this year with an emergency spare wheel fitted to the nearside front corner.

He drives daily on this commuting around ten miles a day and at times carries his children in the car.

The purpose of these spare wheels is of course simply to enable you to get to a tyre repair centre or home to replace the damaged tyre.

I can’t imagine these skinny tyres are designed to withstand the heat generated and surely they can’t provide much grip particularly on a diesel engine with its torque.

Besides the safety aspect is there anything that can be done from a legal standpoint?

The guy is a total mouth breathing knuckle dragger and I’m not sure he’d take a single word on board if I were to discuss this with him.
Add Utter ill educated moron as well.

NortonES2

400 posts

60 months

Thursday
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Hope he doesn't get another puncture.

Mr Tidy

25,799 posts

139 months

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NortonES2 said:
Hope he doesn't get another puncture.
I hope he does!

Space-savers are only designed for use at up to 50mph and maybe 200 miles at most IIRC.

sherman

14,218 posts

227 months

Thursday
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It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.

Boringvolvodriver

10,145 posts

55 months

Thursday
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sherman said:
It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.
If that were the case, then a sensible person would perhaps buy a cheap steel wheel with the correct sized tyre fitted.

cptsideways

13,697 posts

264 months

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It's he the local drug dealer, would be my first thoughts

sherman

14,218 posts

227 months

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Boringvolvodriver said:
sherman said:
It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.
If that were the case, then a sensible person would perhaps buy a cheap steel wheel with the correct sized tyre fitted.
What you forget is that a large proportion of the public will pay no more than is absoulotley nessesary to make their car work.
A full size spare with a tyre is £100-£150 on top of a roughly £500 alloy.

Super Sonic

8,618 posts

66 months

Thursday
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cptsideways said:
It's he the local drug dealer, would be my first thoughts
Yeah that's what I always think when I see a car using a sss. 'Must be a drug dealer, why else would anyone have an odd orange wheel?'

SuperPav

1,141 posts

137 months

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RED5RACING said:
My neighbour, who owns a Golf GTD has been driving around since early January this year with an emergency spare wheel fitted to the nearside front corner.

He drives daily on this commuting around ten miles a day and at times carries his children in the car.

The purpose of these spare wheels is of course simply to enable you to get to a tyre repair centre or home to replace the damaged tyre.

I can’t imagine these skinny tyres are designed to withstand the heat generated and surely they can’t provide much grip particularly on a diesel engine with its torque.

Besides the safety aspect is there anything that can be done from a legal standpoint?

The guy is a total mouth breathing knuckle dragger and I’m not sure he’d take a single word on board if I were to discuss this with him.
Is it a proper space saver (which will have bright yellow stickers on it saying "Max 50mph Max 30 miles" or something to that effect, or just a mismatched black steel wheel but with a "full ish" tyre on it. If it's the latter, it'll be fine. If it's the former, they really aren't designed for high loads (esp on front axle!). Would probably be ok if pottering about in 30-40mph zones, but high speed would be bad.

It's not legal if anybody proved he's not using it beyond just an emergency temporary solution. In reality, unless he has an MOT coming up anytime soon, the chances of him getting stopped for it are nil, unless one of his neighbours is a copper.

Mr Tidy

25,799 posts

139 months

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sherman said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
sherman said:
It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.
If that were the case, then a sensible person would perhaps buy a cheap steel wheel with the correct sized tyre fitted.
What you forget is that a large proportion of the public will pay no more than is absoulotley nessesary to make their car work.
A full size spare with a tyre is £100-£150 on top of a roughly £500 alloy.
I've bought several full sets of alloy wheels with usable tyres for £300 or less!

sherman

14,218 posts

227 months

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Mr Tidy said:
I've bought several full sets of alloy wheels with usable tyres for £300 or less!
It is possible but if its through insurance due to a pothole claim for example it will be a new OE wheel from VW with a new midrange tyre

A set of alloys can be bought for £300 as you say but buying 1 alloy is more difficult.

Mr Tidy

25,799 posts

139 months

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sherman said:
Mr Tidy said:
I've bought several full sets of alloy wheels with usable tyres for £300 or less!
It is possible but if its through insurance due to a pothole claim for example it will be a new OE wheel from VW with a new midrange tyre

A set of alloys can be bought for £300 as you say but buying 1 alloy is more difficult.
But how many insurance policies have excesses much lower than £300 anyway?

TREMAiNE

4,065 posts

161 months

LightweightLouisDanvers said:
Often thought it would be hilarious to fit 4 spacesavvers and check out the handling.
Over a decade ago, Chris Harris did a video for the "DRIVE" YouTube channel where he put 4x space savers on a C63 AMG.
It was as comical as you'd expect. I highly recommend giving it a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPh90yNX-mY

Benni

3,616 posts

223 months

These narrow tires sure have reserves, I have seen them used on the quartermile,
as "low drag" rear tires on powerful FWD drag cars with huge slicks on the front axle.
They are of course not allowed and will not pass any scrutineering,
but some shoestring boy racers still use them on non-sanctioned airfield events.
I would not like to see the result of an explosion at 150mph but that never happened, yet.

soad

33,708 posts

188 months

Not a huge amount of thread, and can’t see it lasting long. Really don’t like the handling either.

vikingaero

11,689 posts

181 months

Your common garden space saver has 2.0-2.5mm of tread on them when new and they should be run at around 60psi. You can bet that the neighbours tyre will be run at 30psi.

John D.

18,917 posts

221 months

Benni said:
These narrow tires sure have reserves, I have seen them used on the quartermile,
as "low drag" rear tires on powerful FWD drag cars with huge slicks on the front axle.
They are of course not allowed and will not pass any scrutineering,
but some shoestring boy racers still use them on non-sanctioned airfield events.
I would not like to see the result of an explosion at 150mph but that never happened, yet.
Trying to stop and turn with one on the front would worry me more than going in a straight line.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,812 posts

235 months

an ex neighbours brother in law, who lived a decent distance down the adjoining road ( I need to add this point because I don't want people thinking I live in scuttersville, Tennessee hehe) Picked up a left rear puncture on his 2006 E class Merc before Covid, and he still has the tyre on the car today. All be it that the car appears to be fairly recently abandoned on his front lawn.

It's people with no money, st priorities and zero skills, especially if it requires either effort or money.