Relocating my Router Hub without cables?

Relocating my Router Hub without cables?

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Skii

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Hope this makes sense..

I have a BT master socket in a location that makes where I want to put my Sky router hub very awkward without trailing a long RJ-11 cable across several rooms and through walls.

I've been looking at ethernet via mains adaptors, so my question is can I go from my master socket to a nearby adaptor, and then go via mains to where I want it to terminate ? is there a simple send/receive product (doesn't need wi-fi as the signal from the Hub will be fine and in a central location)

any thoughts?


chrisch77

785 posts

87 months

Thursday
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No.

Ethernet (output of the router) can be passed over power line adaptors (although speed/reliability maybe questionable).
What you appear to want to do is to extend the incoming phone line to a new location for the input to the broadband router. Phone line extension is your only option. Could a phone extension line go on the outside of the house to reach another room instead of internally?


Skii

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chrisch77 said:
What you appear to want to do is to extend the incoming phone line to a new location for the input to the broadband router
Yeah exactly this
chrisch77 said:
Could a phone extension line go on the outside of the house to reach another room instead of internally?
It would be a longer route, so internally would probably be a better path.

Here's a VERY rough schematic - basically SWMBO wants to move the TV / Router and everything else to the opposite side of the living room.



Open plan design with an archway inbetween so internally the path will need to be around the top of the wall / ceiling ( right hand wall is adjoining with next door)

chrisch77

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A couple of thoughts - how does the incoming BT cable get to the existing master socket? If it comes underground there might be an external grey connection box above ground where the cable through the wall to the socket connects. The master socket could then be relocated and connected around the outside of the external wall back to the junction box.

Alternatively, what is the flooring in the room(s)? If carpet all the way then you could pretty easily loose the BT extension cable under the carpet or gap between skirting board and floor, assuming there isn't an open external doorway to be traversed.

Skii

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Ill take a look at the master socket on the outside as I think there is a potential route outside , Lounge is carpet and kitchen is laminate floor ( threshold bar between the two) but that helps, I can concentrate on finding a route for the cable smile

Davie

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Upgrade to FTTP (if available) and then have the fibre cable re-routed at the time of installation? The new ONT could possibly be fitted over where you want the router? Failing that then yes, you'll need to extend the cable from the copper master socket internally or try and re-route the copper feed around / under the house and relocate the master socket.

Road2Ruin

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Skii said:
Hope this makes sense..

I have a BT master socket in a location that makes where I want to put my Sky router hub very awkward without trailing a long RJ-11 cable across several rooms and through walls.

I've been looking at ethernet via mains adaptors, so my question is can I go from my master socket to a nearby adaptor, and then go via mains to where I want it to terminate ? is there a simple send/receive product (doesn't need wi-fi as the signal from the Hub will be fine and in a central location)

any thoughts?
Why do you want to move the router? You could leave it where it is, then use a powerline adapter or mesh system to move the signal elsewhere. For example, one powerline adapter plugged in next to the router, then another at your desired location plugged in to a network switch or another router in bridge mode, if you want wireless from it.

Skii

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Davie said:
Upgrade to FTTP (if available) and then have the fibre cable re-routed at the time of installation? The new ONT could possibly be fitted over where you want the router? Failing that then yes, you'll need to extend the cable from the copper master socket internally or try and re-route the copper feed around / under the house and relocate the master socket.
No direct fibre in my area unfortunately, nearest exchange is a mile away, so I'm limited to the phone line currently.


Road2Ruin said:
Why do you want to move the router? You could leave it where it is, then use a powerline adapter or mesh system to move the signal elsewhere. For example, one powerline adapter plugged in next to the router, then another at your desired location plugged in to a network switch or another router in bridge mode, if you want wireless from it.
That's a good call, the router doesn't actually need to be where the TV is going , hadn't considered that, thankyou!

omniflow

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163 months

Just use Wi-Fi for the TV in the new position, it will work absolutely fine.

I'm saying this as someone who is extremely old-school and who used to have wired ethernet connections to everything. Now I have a 4K TV connected by Wi-Fi to a router in a different room and can watch iPlayer, Netflix, Prime and Now TV without any issues at all.

Skii

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omniflow said:
Just use Wi-Fi for the TV in the new position, it will work absolutely fine.

I'm saying this as someone who is extremely old-school and who used to have wired ethernet connections to everything. Now I have a 4K TV connected by Wi-Fi to a router in a different room and can watch iPlayer, Netflix, Prime and Now TV without any issues at all.
I can't believe I didn't consider that, DOH!! Thankyou Sir

richhead

2,074 posts

23 months

omniflow said:
Just use Wi-Fi for the TV in the new position, it will work absolutely fine.

I'm saying this as someone who is extremely old-school and who used to have wired ethernet connections to everything. Now I have a 4K TV connected by Wi-Fi to a router in a different room and can watch iPlayer, Netflix, Prime and Now TV without any issues at all.
I was going to suggest the same, my bt wall socket and therefore router is the other side of my house to everything that uses it, and wifi does everything i need, streaming, playstation, etc, and thats with the old talk talk supplied router, its3 walls and about 40ft away, never had a problem.
Im sure wired would be better, but is better needed? |Easy to just try it and see if it works.

Skii

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richhead said:
I was going to suggest the same, my bt wall socket and therefore router is the other side of my house to everything that uses it, and wifi does everything i need, streaming, playstation, etc, and thats with the old talk talk supplied router, its3 walls and about 40ft away, never had a problem.
Im sure wired would be better, but is better needed? |Easy to just try it and see if it works.
Yeah I'll disconnect the ethernet later and test it, if all good , problem solved smile

richhead

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23 months

Skii said:
Yeah I'll disconnect the ethernet later and test it, if all good , problem solved smile
And if it does you get bonus points from the boss with out spending any money, win win