RE: One-owner-from-new Citroen Saxo VTR for sale

RE: One-owner-from-new Citroen Saxo VTR for sale

Thursday 3rd April

One-owner-from-new Citroen Saxo VTR for sale

Precious few speedy Saxos survive in 2025 - and even fewer with just 45,000 miles


Even in its nascent stages, the revival of the small hot hatch - with battery power and modest weight - is to be celebrated. Cars like the Alpine A290 and Mini Cooper SE are already very good, and the return of the 208 GTI sounds like great news. Small, light, fast and fun is a recipe for entertainment, whatever the power source. Now we just need Citroen to join the fun. It has a long and storied history of GTs, GTIs, VTRs and VTSes and now there’s a new electric small car, the e-C3, which shares its STLA Smart Car Platform with the Fiat Grande Panda. An e-C3 VTS or GT or whatever doesn’t seem like the silliest stretch of the imagination; presumably the rest of the Stellantis brands will see how the e-208 GTI turns out before committing any further. But Citroen has been off the enthusiast radar for too long, probably since the old DS 3 Performance, and it would be great to have them back. 

It remains so cherished because of cars like this Saxo VTR. Classic French pocket rockets weren’t complicated, or tremendously sophisticated, or expensive, but they delivered fun like little else. So people kept buying them - helped by free insurance and cheap finance back in the day - and Renault, Citroen and Peugeot kept making them. Until they didn’t. Or rather they did, but they were cars like the 207 GTI and C4 VTS. And it would have been better not to have bothered. 

Anyway, this is not your average Saxo VTR. We all know what happened to most: thrashed from new by a first owner, who will have moved it on when they could get a Civic Type R. Thrashed by a second owner until they wanted something more practical. Thrashed by the next until they were told they needed something safer. Cherished (and thrashed some more) by a young PHer who can just about afford the first fast French fancy. Then probably scrapped, or crashed. Rinse and repeat. 

These are old millennials’ RWD Escorts, those cheap and fun old cars that were traded for buttons when they were plentiful - and now worth a whole lot more with the supply dried up. Thanks to scrapping and crashing. This one, somehow, has just one previous owner for its entire 22 years, and considerably fewer than 50,000 miles. It’s borderline unprecedented for this kind of machine, the junior hot hatch that represented a stepping stone onto more serious machinery. 

But somebody kept the VTR, and kept it nice. There’s not a modification to be seen, for starters: the crummy radio-CD player, a rear wiper the length of the wheelbase, an untouched parcel shelf and modest wheels are all present and correct. As an 03-registered car, it’s one of the last Saxos, and the MOT history is overwhelmingly green, again not another guarantee given build quality was hardly a strength. 

Now it’s for sale at £8,495, or not a whole lot less than it would have cost in the early '00s. As back then, a 16-valve VTS remains the most desirable of the Saxos, but it feels like they’re even thinner on the ground these days. Even as a mere eight-valve, a VTR is going to be admired wherever it goes, and must surely be one of the cheapest classics to keep on the road. Maybe it’ll stick with the second owner for another couple of decades - Citroen might finally have decided to make another performance car by then…


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fantheman80

Original Poster:

1,835 posts

61 months

Thursday 3rd April
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"We all know what happened to most: thrashed from new by a first owner, who will have moved it on when they could get a Civic Type R"

I had a VTS back in the day at 21 with nut crushing insurance but I did feel the dogs danglies when my mates were going about in VTRs and Zetec-S's. Changed it for an EP3 at 24, fun, simpler times.

Andy83n

494 posts

74 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Surely the black 16v for £2.5k less would be the one to buy

Lo-Fi

915 posts

82 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Possibly the sexiest wheels ever.

paradigital

1,019 posts

164 months

Thursday 3rd April
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fantheman80 said:
"We all know what happened to most: thrashed from new by a first owner, who will have moved it on when they could get a Civic Type R"
I had a brand new 2003 “icelandic grey” (otherwise known as baby blue) VTR that I essentially only got because of the free insurance. As my second car I only had a single year’s NCD under my belt at the time of purchase.

It got thoroughly abused, from cold, daily. It was however, brilliant. Throw it into any corner at any speed and it would come out the other side, likely on three wheels. Plenty fast enough for me as a rather daft 18-20 year old, and I put almost 60k miles on it in just under 3 years!

Moved on when I could afford (and afford to insure) a lightly used Seat Leon Cupra R, which was treated with much more respect.

zorba_the_greek

1,050 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd April
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fantheman80 said:
"We all know what happened to most: thrashed from new by a first owner, who will have moved it on when they could get a Civic Type R"

I had a VTS back in the day at 21 with nut crushing insurance but I did feel the dogs danglies when my mates were going about in VTRs and Zetec-S's. Changed it for an EP3 at 24, fun, simpler times.
This was the natural transition.

VTR or VTS then onto Type R. The good old days

The gave free 1 year insurance on the VTRs if IIRC

dunnoreally

1,220 posts

120 months

Thursday 3rd April
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As a teenager I learned a valuable lesson from one of these. Unfortunately the lesson was "don't buy a car without thoroughly checking it over". Rear axel was broken and I only noticed on the way home. Fortunately I was only burned for £600.

I could go for an actually decent one someday.

Evo Sean

265 posts

178 months

Thursday 3rd April
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I had/have 5 in total.

1.1 8v (mk1 converted to mk2 - VTR bodykit in Posy Blue)
1.6 8v mk2 VTR in Icelandic Grey
1.6 16v mk2 VTS in Posy Blue (Supercharged 220bhp)
1.6 16v mk1 VTS in Venetian Red (Supercharged 252bhp)
1.6 16v mk2 VTS in black (converted to mk1) (Turbo 371bhp!)

Still have the last on the list. Build thread here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Shnozz

28,556 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd April
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paradigital said:
I had a brand new 2003 “icelandic grey” (otherwise known as baby blue) VTR that I essentially only got because of the free insurance. As my second car I only had a single year’s NCD under my belt at the time of purchase.

It got thoroughly abused, from cold, daily. It was however, brilliant. Throw it into any corner at any speed and it would come out the other side, likely on three wheels. Plenty fast enough for me as a rather daft 18-20 year old, and I put almost 60k miles on it in just under 3 years!

Moved on when I could afford (and afford to insure) a lightly used Seat Leon Cupra R, which was treated with much more respect.
The free insurance was the draw as a teenager! I wanted a blue one but ended up with a dark red one as all I could find.

Brilliant little car and fond memories. Mine was the MK1 which I prefer before the headlights went rounder.

Was thinking of it the other day actually when discussing the modern car thefts and thinking about the PIN number immobiliser in front of the gearstick.

GreatScott2016

1,743 posts

100 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Evo Sean said:
I had/have 5 in total.

1.1 8v (mk1 converted to mk2 - VTR bodykit in Posy Blue)
1.6 8v mk2 VTR in Icelandic Grey
1.6 16v mk2 VTS in Posy Blue (Supercharged 220bhp)
1.6 16v mk1 VTS in Venetian Red (Supercharged 252bhp)
1.6 16v mk2 VTS in black (converted to mk1) (Turbo 371bhp!)

Still have the last on the list. Build thread here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
You’ve just made my day seeing that picture of the rear diffuser!

No Face

256 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd April
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“ thrashed from new by a first owner, who will have moved it on when they could get a Civic Type R”

Ha - I didn’t have a VTR but went from a 1.0 Saxo (had a PIN number immobiliser and 50bhp) to an EP3 Type R. Good times.

s m

23,701 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Lo-Fi said:
Possibly the sexiest wheels ever.
I had a VTS from new and was gutted when it turned up ( April 99 ) on the new 15” Twists rather than the 14” Soupbowls - luckily the VTR owner whose car arrived on the same transporter was very happy to do a swap organised by the dealer smile

greenarrow

4,130 posts

129 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Never owned one but remember the era, approx 2001-02 when these were being discounted massively and had the low insurance group rating. Became the best selling model in the whole Saxo line up. Possibly the last cult car for young people before this category of warm hatch was killed off by safety regs and then the advance of the crossover car. Amazing to think that anyone who had one of these as a 17 year old in 2002 is hitting 40 this year! The millenials were the last generation of car owners I think who had access to cheap, small nippy boy racer type hatches! For my generation, the equivalent was probably the MK2 XR2 of the mid to late 80s. When did you last see one of those?!

cerb4.5lee

35,775 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd April
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I always thought that the VTS was a genuinely quick car back in the day, and they were always quicker than the XR4x4 that I had at the time. I've always liked them. cool

Liamjrhodes

296 posts

153 months

Thursday 3rd April
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I had 6 various 106s and saxos with all the engines from the 1.1 single point injection to the 1.6 16v. Loved them all but can't believe how expensive they are nowadays!

Always had a soft spot for the 'Mango' special edition saxo

WPA

11,404 posts

126 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Nice to see a standard one and not that crazy price wise

Snaaakeey

183 posts

84 months

Thursday 3rd April
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I had the 106 gti. Same car just 16v like the VTS. Fantastic fun This and the Clio cup 182 where the most fun I have had in a car.

Chris-c1qtx

10 posts

101 months

Thursday 3rd April
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I had a VTS, felt like a very quick car back when I was 22 years old. The steering column set on fire one day on the motorway. I think the electric power steering had the full amperage running through the ignition barrel or something, no solenoid arrangement, and it had basically melted and combusted.

Fond memories of the car overall. The VTR was always not quite quick enough I thought. Good finance and insurance combo deals on them at the time though I remember.

jonwm

2,592 posts

126 months

Thursday 3rd April
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I was knocking about the merry hill shopping centre Thursday race night back when these were about with free insurance, most weeks one got smashed up, that free insurance must have cost Citroen a tidy penny.
Always sounded good with an air filter and being smashed of the limiter.

Good old days!

Nickp82

3,523 posts

105 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Not the most exciting colour but if the underside condition is as good as the MOT history suggests that looks a great car to have.
I always preferred the 106 myself based purely on looks but either way these cars are so much fun, I’m sure there are many of us with memories of doing frankly silly things in cars such as these a couple of decades ago.

Mike1990

1,065 posts

143 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Lovely indeed.