Why are drivers seemingly not bothered by old tyres?

Why are drivers seemingly not bothered by old tyres?

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aceofspades1

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286 posts

33 months

Tuesday
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Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but does anyone find it amazing how many vehicle owners (especially on classic vehicles) don't bother replacing really old tyres?

Several vehicles I've bought in the last 5 years had exceptionally old tyres on them.

Last week I bought a campervan which had just had a very expensive night heater just fitted... and guess how old the rear tyres were? 2008!! The previous owner had recently done several large motorway trips to with his family in it too... On vans you can get good budget tyres for £65 each.



Am I overestimating the risk of old tyres?

E63eeeeee...

4,870 posts

61 months

Tuesday
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Obviously. Otherwise they wouldn't still be on all the cars you keep seeing driving around with them on, instead they would be burnt-out wrecks in a ditch or whatever.

ChocolateFrog

30,646 posts

185 months

Tuesday
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Probably for same reason I don't see the difference in a bag for life and a Luis Vuitton.

aceofspades1

Original Poster:

286 posts

33 months

Tuesday
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ChocolateFrog said:
Probably for same reason I don't see the difference in a bag for life and a Luis Vuitton.
Are you taking a bag for life on the motorway at 70mph?

Dingu

4,741 posts

42 months

Tuesday
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aceofspades1 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Probably for same reason I don't see the difference in a bag for life and a Luis Vuitton.
Are you taking a bag for life on the motorway at 70mph?
It clearly survived though didn’t it. Inadvisable? Perhaps. Guaranteed death? Hardly.

Harry you Potter

132 posts

10 months

Tuesday
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I see no issue. The tyre manufacturers are trying to scaremonger so we buy tyres more often.

andburg

7,936 posts

181 months

Tuesday
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Age is just a number but they look dry!
Cracked sidewalls so I can only assume how little flex and grip is left in the contact area.

Shooter McGavin

8,045 posts

156 months

Tuesday
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As with everything it is condition over age.

I've got a Kawasaki ZX7R motorbike which sees little use, its tyres are ancient but they are in great shape, despite being "old".

The tyres in your picture have cracked sidewalls which I personally would not trust.


eldar

23,335 posts

208 months

Tuesday
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Personally, I'm more concerned by the nuggets that drive around on space saver tyres, then winge that they've worn out after 3,000 miles.

Tasmin200

1,320 posts

199 months

Tuesday
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Harry you Potter said:
I see no issue. The tyre manufacturers are trying to scaremonger so we buy tyres more often.
Naa, I'm usually on the side of it'll be fine but old tyres go hard and in the wet have seriously reduced grip. I nearly stacked my TVR when I bought a new set of wheels with tyres. They looked like new.

ambuletz

11,149 posts

193 months

Tuesday
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Shooter McGavin said:
As with everything it is condition over age.

I've got a Kawasaki ZX7R motorbike which sees little use, its tyres are ancient but they are in great shape, despite being "old".

The tyres in your picture have cracked sidewalls which I personally would not trust.
How old is your helmet?

maz8062

2,849 posts

227 months

Tuesday
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In the Porsche community folk go on about this day in day out. They pootle around in their Porsha - to and from the shops and change all tyres after 5 year regardless of tread depth, cracking or owt. Tyres are replaced with Michelin Pilot 4S and £1k a set. It’s like a religion to them.

balham123

69 posts

11 months

Tuesday
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Imagine a lot of people have no idea what the codes mean.

Including me.

Wacky Racer

39,469 posts

259 months

Tuesday
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balham123 said:
Imagine a lot of people have no idea what the codes mean.

Including me.
Ten second Google:-

https://www.michelin.co.uk/auto/advice/tyre-basics...

Pica-Pica

14,912 posts

96 months

Tuesday
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The wheels don’t too healthy either.

BERNEV

64 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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It’s all to do with storage and usage conditions. If tyres are kept relatively stable in terms of humidity and temperature and do not see much light then they can last a long time. I have one set which are now 25 years old and the mot tester says they are fine with no cracking or block deformation. The car has 80 bhp so it’s not a big deal and I think I can feel the difference between them and “new” but they are not unsafe in any way. It’s because they have not really seen any “environment”. Equally though those which are kept outside and suffer real changes in environment can be toast in five years. I have a baby super car on 10 year old tyres and I will probably change them this year. Clearly if you track all the time you will want to do things more often. But I drive in the way only we can now nowadays in the U.K. - in traffic. The ten year rule no longer applies.

Mr Tidy

25,761 posts

139 months

Tuesday
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Worrying about the age of tyres seems to be a recent obsession!

In fact I don't think there was any date marking until recently. I've never replaced tyres because of their age, but have changed tyres showing signs of cracking.

Having said that they don't seem to last too long these days. My sister bought a 2018 Fiat 500 in 2021 with less than 10K miles and when it had it's first MOT in 2021 there were advisories for all 4 Pirelli Run-flats. eek

cliffords

2,218 posts

35 months

Tuesday
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I just replaced two tyres on the back of an old Jag I have.
The tyres that came off were 2012. The new tyres are so much softer the ride much more compliant it's a different car .

The wheel in the picture looks very rusty.

MonteCarlos1

41 posts

7 months

Tuesday
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I think there's an element of common sense to approaching this rather than using dates. If the tires look visibly perished or cracking, replace. If not, they're likely fine.

I'm more bothered about people fitting new plastic chinese ditchfinders to their cars than having an old set of decent quality tires.

cerb4.5lee

35,502 posts

192 months

Tuesday
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Mr Tidy said:
Worrying about the age of tyres seems to be a recent obsession!

In fact I don't think there was any date marking until recently. I've never replaced tyres because of their age, but have changed tyres showing signs of cracking.
I did change all 4 tyres on the Caterham when I got it because they were 21 years old, but in fairness the car had only done 4k miles though from new, so they still looked like new to be fair.

I don't know if I did the right thing or not really, because they're wasn't any cracking on them or anything. But I did it for a bit of piece of mind, but it could be argued that it wasn't worth it though as you say I think.