The DVLA and makeing an engine at home

The DVLA and makeing an engine at home

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Funkmachine7

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77 posts

116 months

Tuesday
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Ok so lets say that i go mad take off into a shed with a pile of steel plate an load of the cheap 4 stroke gentators.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.

How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.

RSTurboPaul

11,656 posts

270 months

Tuesday
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I don't know but you need to make it happen biggrin

Stick Legs

6,734 posts

177 months

Tuesday
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V16 Lada with chainsaw engines.




Honestly I think the DVLA would have a fit! They don’t understand смекалка. The Russian concept of resourcefulness, that nothing useful can be taught.

smokey mow

1,229 posts

212 months

Tuesday
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Funkmachine7 said:
Ok so lets say that i go mad take off into a shed with a pile of steel plate an load of the cheap 4 stroke gentators.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.

How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
The DVLA will treat it exactly the same as any other engine swap and it will be up to you to figure out how to get it to pass the emissions test for the MoT.

paul_c123

257 posts

5 months

Tuesday
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You'd not get an exemption for "older engine into newer car" - for which you'd need to prove the age of the engine, anyway.

So, given that, the emissions test would relate to the age of the car. So don't stick it into a new car. From vague memory, there is a change in the emissions requirements pre 1976, that would be your best shot.

ETA the key date is 1 Aug 1975. Before this (before P reg suffix), no emissions test is needed.

After this date, and before you needed a cat (1992-1994):



Edited by paul_c123 on Tuesday 1st April 11:13


Edited by paul_c123 on Tuesday 1st April 11:15

stevieturbo

17,696 posts

259 months

Tuesday
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Funkmachine7 said:
Ok so lets say that i go mad take off into a shed with a pile of steel plate an load of the cheap 4 stroke gentators.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.

How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
A lot depends what you're putting it into.

If something modern....you may face more hurdles than something very old.

Obviously it will still have to pass any relevant MOT, but the engine side of things there can be tested to the age of car, or engine,, whichever can be proven is the oldest.

But for the most part, just an engine swap isn't a huge deal unless it's an utter butchers job.

Gt6turbo

15 posts

3 months

Tuesday
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Do it

paul_c123

257 posts

5 months

Tuesday
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All joking aside, people can and do make fully working steam engines as a hobbyist with a small lathe and milling machine. They take a while, but its quite possible.

Apparently an internal combustion engine is much harder for a hobbyist to make and work properly, they need much tighter tolerances or something.

Funkmachine7

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77 posts

116 months

Yesterday (02:42)
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The engines age would be based on the block's year of manufacture, so 2025 after all its a new engine not a replacement part of a vehicle.

But as the emissions limits are based on the car age, so it would be looking for a home in an older car (or a new car that had Individual Vehicle Approval with the engine.)
It would be default limits as theres no book vaules to test it aginst.

gazza285

10,373 posts

220 months

Yesterday (10:26)
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My old man used to compete in ecomarathons, he made his own engine. Only 30cc though…

-Cappo-

20,081 posts

215 months

Yesterday (11:05)
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You could ask Allen Millyard how he gets his creations registered? He takes things like 4-cyl Japanese bike engines and turns them into 6s by cutting up two engines and welding the bits he wants back together.

He's pretty active on SM so I would think you might get an answer from him.