Discussion
Not, strictly speaking my car, but my eldest Son's.
It's a 2010, 140,000 mile red Peugeot 107.
I thought I'd start a thread as
1. People on here are really helpful in giving technical advice, and the Peugeot forums are mainly full of people complaining about 1.2 puretech engine failures
2. It's a good record of what we've done to it.
As for the car, it's had one owner from new who was pretty good at servicing it. It's small, a bit wobbly but doesn't make any strange noises, goes and stops in a straight line. But not very fast. It's also very low insurance (1100 per year), low tax, and only sips fuel. And underneath, it's in really good shape.
First job, fit a proper sat nav, which will also give hands free calls and music. So it's a safety modification.
Also a good bit of father son time, and time for son to learn how many swearwords this old man knows.
To be honest, despite the awful instructions, it wasn't too hard to fit. Whoever thought line "connect the new wiring to the old wiring" (with no diagrams) would be sufficient is a lazy scumbag.
Took about an hour, and a lot of that time was spend routing cables.
Plus some new mats, just to smarten the scruffy interior.
Next we'll give it a proper service, and pull a wheel off to look at the brakes.
It's a 2010, 140,000 mile red Peugeot 107.
I thought I'd start a thread as
1. People on here are really helpful in giving technical advice, and the Peugeot forums are mainly full of people complaining about 1.2 puretech engine failures
2. It's a good record of what we've done to it.
As for the car, it's had one owner from new who was pretty good at servicing it. It's small, a bit wobbly but doesn't make any strange noises, goes and stops in a straight line. But not very fast. It's also very low insurance (1100 per year), low tax, and only sips fuel. And underneath, it's in really good shape.
First job, fit a proper sat nav, which will also give hands free calls and music. So it's a safety modification.
Also a good bit of father son time, and time for son to learn how many swearwords this old man knows.
To be honest, despite the awful instructions, it wasn't too hard to fit. Whoever thought line "connect the new wiring to the old wiring" (with no diagrams) would be sufficient is a lazy scumbag.
Took about an hour, and a lot of that time was spend routing cables.
Plus some new mats, just to smarten the scruffy interior.
Next we'll give it a proper service, and pull a wheel off to look at the brakes.
Edited by Cambs_Stuart on Monday 31st March 13:34
Our soon to be 17 year old lad has one of these for his first car, brilliant motors. I picked myself up a slightly newer one as well (facelift).
Main thing is to check for leaks. Rear light seals, boot seals, door seals, and the vents behind the rear bumper as well. Our lads has a leak into the boot which i'll be sorting shortly.
X8R do lots of seal kits for these (use code DABDIY20) for 20% off as well (from DABDIY you tube channel).
Only other real problem on these are they like to eat clutches but apart from that, they are pretty bomb proof
MK2 seats fit straight into the MK1 as well, much comfier.
the MK1's have the 1 litre engine exclusively, so no wet belts to worry about!
Main thing is to check for leaks. Rear light seals, boot seals, door seals, and the vents behind the rear bumper as well. Our lads has a leak into the boot which i'll be sorting shortly.
X8R do lots of seal kits for these (use code DABDIY20) for 20% off as well (from DABDIY you tube channel).
Only other real problem on these are they like to eat clutches but apart from that, they are pretty bomb proof
MK2 seats fit straight into the MK1 as well, much comfier.
the MK1's have the 1 litre engine exclusively, so no wet belts to worry about!
James_N said:
Our soon to be 17 year old lad has one of these for his first car, brilliant motors. I picked myself up a slightly newer one as well (facelift).
Main thing is to check for leaks. Rear light seals, boot seals, door seals, and the vents behind the rear bumper as well. Our lads has a leak into the boot which i'll be sorting shortly.
X8R do lots of seal kits for these (use code DABDIY20) for 20% off as well (from DABDIY you tube channel).
Only other real problem on these are they like to eat clutches but apart from that, they are pretty bomb proof
MK2 seats fit straight into the MK1 as well, much comfier.
the MK1's have the 1 litre engine exclusively, so no wet belts to worry about!
Thanks, the seat idea is a great one, some of the covers are looking a bit worn and loose. As for leaks, I picked it up in the pouring rain but all the dust and filth inside was bone dry, so we'll keep an eye on it. Main thing is to check for leaks. Rear light seals, boot seals, door seals, and the vents behind the rear bumper as well. Our lads has a leak into the boot which i'll be sorting shortly.
X8R do lots of seal kits for these (use code DABDIY20) for 20% off as well (from DABDIY you tube channel).
Only other real problem on these are they like to eat clutches but apart from that, they are pretty bomb proof
MK2 seats fit straight into the MK1 as well, much comfier.
the MK1's have the 1 litre engine exclusively, so no wet belts to worry about!
LankyFreak said:
another extremely easy 'upgrade' is changing the gear knob. I got a black aluminium one for my red aygo.
Made the car a f
ker to drive on a cold winters morning 
I've got an aluminium one in my clio which is freezing in winter and roasting in summer. But feels good the rest of the time. Good idea though. Made the car a f
ker to drive on a cold winters morning Once we've given this a good service I think the next thing will be some new dash speakers, but a knob is a nice touch.
Are they screwed on or bonded?
James_N said:
Our soon to be 17 year old lad has one of these for his first car, brilliant motors. I picked myself up a slightly newer one as well (facelift).
Main thing is to check for leaks. Rear light seals, boot seals, door seals, and the vents behind the rear bumper as well. Our lads has a leak into the boot which i'll be sorting shortly.
X8R do lots of seal kits for these (use code DABDIY20) for 20% off as well (from DABDIY you tube channel).
Only other real problem on these are they like to eat clutches but apart from that, they are pretty bomb proof
MK2 seats fit straight into the MK1 as well, much comfier.
the MK1's have the 1 litre engine exclusively, so no wet belts to worry about!
I used to work for Peugeot and the majority of 107s had water leaks into the boot. In almost every single case, it was the third brake light above the bootlid. The rubber seal perishes. New items are cheap, or you can use some silicon sealant.Main thing is to check for leaks. Rear light seals, boot seals, door seals, and the vents behind the rear bumper as well. Our lads has a leak into the boot which i'll be sorting shortly.
X8R do lots of seal kits for these (use code DABDIY20) for 20% off as well (from DABDIY you tube channel).
Only other real problem on these are they like to eat clutches but apart from that, they are pretty bomb proof
MK2 seats fit straight into the MK1 as well, much comfier.
the MK1's have the 1 litre engine exclusively, so no wet belts to worry about!
Other than that (and exhausts blowing), they were fantastic little cars. No issues thanks to Toyota engines. Every other Peugeot we had in was a basket case waiting to happen.
Keep an eye on the oil. My daughters one was using about a litre evey 1500 miles. The engine only takes about 3 litres so not much to run out of! Apart from that the engines are pretty robust.
Also check the bonnet release, the cable is held on with a small plastic lug that breaks. If it does snap you can get to it by taking off the bumper under tray and reaching up to the latch from below. You can't see it, but you can feel it.
As someone else has said watch for leaks. The centre brake light is a common culprit (it was on my daughters).
Great first cars. Cheap to tax and insure, and very little to go wrong. When they do they are a simple fix.
I assume you know they are the same underneath as a C1 and an Aygo? The interiors are identical. Makes sourcing parts easier.
If you want to upgrade it further you can add an original rev counter on the side of the dash.
Also check the bonnet release, the cable is held on with a small plastic lug that breaks. If it does snap you can get to it by taking off the bumper under tray and reaching up to the latch from below. You can't see it, but you can feel it.
As someone else has said watch for leaks. The centre brake light is a common culprit (it was on my daughters).
Great first cars. Cheap to tax and insure, and very little to go wrong. When they do they are a simple fix.
I assume you know they are the same underneath as a C1 and an Aygo? The interiors are identical. Makes sourcing parts easier.
If you want to upgrade it further you can add an original rev counter on the side of the dash.
Edited by 98elise on Monday 31st March 14:12
We bought one of these during lock down (the same colour and same age!) as a cheap and cheerful runaround. Paint is a bit tatty in places and I spied from rust starting at the bottom of the passenger door, but it's sailed through 4 MOTs and cost buttons to run - I think the biggest expense might have been a set of Osram Nightbreakers and a headlight restoration kit which have made it much nicer to drive in the dark.
Plan is to give it to middle-child next year when he turns 17!
Chris
Plan is to give it to middle-child next year when he turns 17!
Chris
98elise said:
Keep an eye on the oil. My daughters one was using about a litre evey 1500 miles. The engine only takes about 3 litres so not much to run out of! Apart from that the engines are pretty robust.
Also check the bonnet release, the cable is held on with a small plastic lug that breaks. If it does snap you can get to it by taking off the bumper under tray and reaching up to the latch from below. You can't see it, but you can feel it.
As someone else has said watch for leaks. The centre brake light is a common culprit (it was on my daughters).
Great first cars. Cheap to tax and insure, and very little to go wrong. When they do they are a simple fix.
I assume you know they are the same underneath as a C1 and an Aygo? The interiors are identical. Makes sourcing parts easier.
If you want to upgrade it further you can add an original rev counter on the side of the dash.
Thanks for the warning, I'll keep an eye on the oil levels. What causes them to burn it? Dodgy PCV or something more serious?Also check the bonnet release, the cable is held on with a small plastic lug that breaks. If it does snap you can get to it by taking off the bumper under tray and reaching up to the latch from below. You can't see it, but you can feel it.
As someone else has said watch for leaks. The centre brake light is a common culprit (it was on my daughters).
Great first cars. Cheap to tax and insure, and very little to go wrong. When they do they are a simple fix.
I assume you know they are the same underneath as a C1 and an Aygo? The interiors are identical. Makes sourcing parts easier.
If you want to upgrade it further you can add an original rev counter on the side of the dash.
Edited by 98elise on Monday 31st March 14:12
A C1, 107 and Aygo were all on the shortlist when we were looking. Argos have got nicer seat coverings and more have got alloy wheels, but I couldn't find any roadworthy ones near me.
A rev counter is also on the shopping list...
I've been re-watching the BOM series "Bargain Racement" which is giving me very expensive ideas of what to do with it when he's done...
Cambs_Stuart said:
98elise said:
Keep an eye on the oil. My daughters one was using about a litre evey 1500 miles. The engine only takes about 3 litres so not much to run out of! Apart from that the engines are pretty robust.
Also check the bonnet release, the cable is held on with a small plastic lug that breaks. If it does snap you can get to it by taking off the bumper under tray and reaching up to the latch from below. You can't see it, but you can feel it.
As someone else has said watch for leaks. The centre brake light is a common culprit (it was on my daughters).
Great first cars. Cheap to tax and insure, and very little to go wrong. When they do they are a simple fix.
I assume you know they are the same underneath as a C1 and an Aygo? The interiors are identical. Makes sourcing parts easier.
If you want to upgrade it further you can add an original rev counter on the side of the dash.
Thanks for the warning, I'll keep an eye on the oil levels. What causes them to burn it? Dodgy PCV or something more serious?Also check the bonnet release, the cable is held on with a small plastic lug that breaks. If it does snap you can get to it by taking off the bumper under tray and reaching up to the latch from below. You can't see it, but you can feel it.
As someone else has said watch for leaks. The centre brake light is a common culprit (it was on my daughters).
Great first cars. Cheap to tax and insure, and very little to go wrong. When they do they are a simple fix.
I assume you know they are the same underneath as a C1 and an Aygo? The interiors are identical. Makes sourcing parts easier.
If you want to upgrade it further you can add an original rev counter on the side of the dash.
Edited by 98elise on Monday 31st March 14:12
A C1, 107 and Aygo were all on the shortlist when we were looking. Argos have got nicer seat coverings and more have got alloy wheels, but I couldn't find any roadworthy ones near me.
A rev counter is also on the shopping list...
I've been re-watching the BOM series "Bargain Racement" which is giving me very expensive ideas of what to do with it when he's done...
Ours (Aygo) had terminal rust on the sills so we weren't going to spend any money trying to fix it.
Cambs_Stuart said:
Thanks for the warning, I'll keep an eye on the oil levels. What causes them to burn it? Dodgy PCV or something more serious?
A C1, 107 and Aygo were all on the shortlist when we were looking. Argos have got nicer seat coverings and more have got alloy wheels, but I couldn't find any roadworthy ones near me.
A rev counter is also on the shopping list...
I've been re-watching the BOM series "Bargain Racement" which is giving me very expensive ideas of what to do with it when he's done...
Aygos rust on the sills. The French two don't (at least not nearly to the same extent). No idea why. Shame, because I prefer the styling on the Aygo. I really want a 3 door Aygo to turn into a little lightweight b-road blaster.A C1, 107 and Aygo were all on the shortlist when we were looking. Argos have got nicer seat coverings and more have got alloy wheels, but I couldn't find any roadworthy ones near me.
A rev counter is also on the shopping list...
I've been re-watching the BOM series "Bargain Racement" which is giving me very expensive ideas of what to do with it when he's done...
The Bearded Tit said:
Aygos rust on the sills. The French two don't (at least not nearly to the same extent). No idea why. Shame, because I prefer the styling on the Aygo. I really want a 3 door Aygo to turn into a little lightweight b-road blaster.
You wouldn't need much. A revvy 130 to 150hp twin cam would be more than enough. Took advantage of the light and warm evening to give the 107 a service.
Fresh engine oil, gearbox oil, air filter oil filter, spark plugs plus a clean of the MAF and PCV.
It's generally an easy thing to work on, all the bits are easily accessible and nothing looked too old.
Plugs were NGK, and in good shape:
Air filter a bit grubby, but not ridiculous.
And a new wiper.
No pictures, but the PCV was distinctly gummed up, so hopefully that should stop any blockages.
The only issue was the gearbox fill and drain bolts, which are an odd size (24mm) and only half thickness. Plus had previously been done up by the hulk.
Fresh engine oil, gearbox oil, air filter oil filter, spark plugs plus a clean of the MAF and PCV.
It's generally an easy thing to work on, all the bits are easily accessible and nothing looked too old.
Plugs were NGK, and in good shape:
Air filter a bit grubby, but not ridiculous.
And a new wiper.
No pictures, but the PCV was distinctly gummed up, so hopefully that should stop any blockages.
The only issue was the gearbox fill and drain bolts, which are an odd size (24mm) and only half thickness. Plus had previously been done up by the hulk.
Edited by Cambs_Stuart on Monday 31st March 20:48
Spinakerr said:
Ah the next generation being indoctrinated into the worth of high mileage shedding, excellent!
Looks straightforward, hope it gives your son a keen interest into maintenance and mechanical knowledge. Good stuff.
I think he's keen to get his hands dirty, just lacks experience. It's been good to spend a bit of time messing about with the car with him.Looks straightforward, hope it gives your son a keen interest into maintenance and mechanical knowledge. Good stuff.
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