Which helicopters are these?
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jonathan_roberts said:
Absolutely absurd waste of money.
I would argue in the current climate that getting rid of a fleet of simple and reliable helicopters is a waste of money.They operated for over 50 years (introduced in 1971) and in that time will have accrued thousands of hours of 'pointless' air time.
Another couple of hours will make no difference.
Plus, it's poignant and will please a lot of people and act as a promotional tool for the RAF.
jonathan_roberts said:
Absolutely absurd waste of money.
The aircrew have limited flying hours per month, and the hours required for the two days of the tour will come from that monthly allowance. It will have been used as a navigation training exercise that required lots of planning and teaching. Please explain where the waste is. Unless, of course, you adore Putin and would like to reduce our armed forces further.
I do see the waste point, but in the same way you could call the millions spent on the Red Arrows a similar waste of money, the umpteen millions keeping the Lancaster running similarly.
Other than both bring happiness to millions of people, in w world full of garbage, depression and any kind of pride, these things swell some peoples hearts
All the clips I have seen have had numerous people at them, in a field or airfield in the middle of nowhere, they all found out where to be at what time, and why to say goodbye to a fabulous servant of our armed forces that carried equipment, men, medevacced hundreds and saved lives.
that is a fairly decent and very British and honourable thing to do.
Other than both bring happiness to millions of people, in w world full of garbage, depression and any kind of pride, these things swell some peoples hearts
All the clips I have seen have had numerous people at them, in a field or airfield in the middle of nowhere, they all found out where to be at what time, and why to say goodbye to a fabulous servant of our armed forces that carried equipment, men, medevacced hundreds and saved lives.
that is a fairly decent and very British and honourable thing to do.
Stick Legs said:
jonathan_roberts said:
Absolutely absurd waste of money.
I would argue in the current climate that getting rid of a fleet of simple and reliable helicopters is a waste of money.They operated for over 50 years (introduced in 1971) and in that time will have accrued thousands of hours of 'pointless' air time.
Another couple of hours will make no difference.
Plus, it's poignant and will please a lot of people and act as a promotional tool for the RAF.
Thread took and unexpected turn there !
Personally I'm proud to have witnessed the historic event and feel like the tour was an excellent choice, honouring those who worked on or flew in these amazing machines.
Being in service for 50 years I suspect they more than met there expecting service life and ROI expectations decades back so investing in a final good bye of just 3 aircraft will have been negligible investment.
these things are a marvel now, can't imagine how impressive they must have appeared 50 years ago.
Personally I'm proud to have witnessed the historic event and feel like the tour was an excellent choice, honouring those who worked on or flew in these amazing machines.
Being in service for 50 years I suspect they more than met there expecting service life and ROI expectations decades back so investing in a final good bye of just 3 aircraft will have been negligible investment.
these things are a marvel now, can't imagine how impressive they must have appeared 50 years ago.
jonathan_roberts said:
It’s an expensive jolly paid for by us.
Yep, defence is an expensive jolly until you need it! Even practicising, developing skills, gaining experience is expensive but if you want a capable defence then you have to suck it up! The last 2 days will have been a great training opportunity for crews using their costed and allocated hours plus a lovely farewell and thank you to all the people who flew, worked on, supported and died in the last 54 years.jonathan_roberts said:
It’s an expensive jolly paid for by us.
Only in the sense all military activity outside of an actual war is; it's just make believe trundling around Salisbury Plain attacking the invading Redland Army, practising the basics of keeping an aircraft in the air and pointing in the desired direction in all weathers, sailing a ship past the Spratly Islands to maintain the freedom of navigation. These are all very expensive but doing without them has consistently proven to be more expensive.Roboticarm said:
Thread took and unexpected turn there !
Personally I'm proud to have witnessed the historic event and feel like the tour was an excellent choice, honouring those who worked on or flew in these amazing machines.
Being in service for 50 years I suspect they more than met there expecting service life and ROI expectations decades back so investing in a final good bye of just 3 aircraft will have been negligible investment.
these things are a marvel now, can't imagine how impressive they must have appeared 50 years ago.
50 years? Jeez I can remember buying the Airfix kit when I was about 10 so I guess that adds up. I am so old. Personally I'm proud to have witnessed the historic event and feel like the tour was an excellent choice, honouring those who worked on or flew in these amazing machines.
Being in service for 50 years I suspect they more than met there expecting service life and ROI expectations decades back so investing in a final good bye of just 3 aircraft will have been negligible investment.
these things are a marvel now, can't imagine how impressive they must have appeared 50 years ago.
Talking about military things that are on borrowed time, I would be surprised if the Red Arrows survive for much longer.

jonathan_roberts said:
It’s an expensive jolly paid for by us.
To gain any validity for your short comments, you may want to add more meat to their bones. Otherwise, as you have done so far, you come across as someone of limited intelligence, not even able to read replies that have explanations. Edited by Tony1963 on Saturday 29th March 16:57
jonathan_roberts said:
Stick Legs said:
jonathan_roberts said:
Absolutely absurd waste of money.
I would argue in the current climate that getting rid of a fleet of simple and reliable helicopters is a waste of money.They operated for over 50 years (introduced in 1971) and in that time will have accrued thousands of hours of 'pointless' air time.
Another couple of hours will make no difference.
Plus, it's poignant and will please a lot of people and act as a promotional tool for the RAF.
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