RE: DS 3 Performance | Spotted

RE: DS 3 Performance | Spotted

Thursday 27th March

DS 3 Performance | Spotted

Not as attention-grabbing as the original Racing, but the Performance was better to drive - and easier on the eye


Citroen doesn’t know how to do normal. Admittedly, there’s nothing much out of the ordinary about its current lineup, which is the usual mix of small and medium-sized crossovers, but peel back their boxy, mildly funky shells and you’ll find one of the most pillowy chassis in their respective classes. And bookending the range are two proper oddballs: the ultra-basic Ami EV and, at the other end, the part-shooting brake, part crossover C5 X. The latter is a truly baffling blend of a massive popular body style with a deeply unpopular one, but it makes for a wonderfully unorthodox executive car. A proper Citroen, then.

The French marque came at its performance cars with a similar approach. Remember the BX 4TC homologation special? Not many people do, because it made for such a rubbish rally car that Citroen destroyed all its unsold stock once the Group B era came to an end. It was, however, a brilliantly odd-looking thing, and sat far closer to the rally car than the firm’s next WRC special, the C4 By Loeb, which was just a VTS in either red of black with white wheels and some stickers. Fortunately, it put considerably more effort into its next performance offering, arriving in 2011 as the Citroen DS 3 Racing.

Having learnt its lesson with the C4 By Loeb, the company decided to hand the reigns over to Citroen Racing, the team behind Sebastien Loeb’s nine(!) WRC titles, for its warmed-up DS 3. And good thing it did, because the the modifications were extensive. The Mini-derived 1.6-litre turbo engine was boosted to 203hp, the suspension firmed up (but still far softer than any of its rivals) and the brakes uprated with four-piston Brembo callipers up front. Most, however, will remember the DS 3 Racing’s striking orange and black colour scheme, with carbon trim glued to the skirts and wheel arches - taking Colin Chapman’s ‘add lightness’ adage a little too literally. 

The car we have here is the distinctly less orange 2016 refresh. In fact, it technically isn’t a Citroen, as it arrived just after the company decided to make DS its own upmarket entity. You therefore won’t find any Citroen badges here, nor the questionable-yet-characterful ‘caution’ stickers that adorned the original, but instead fancy DS emblems, subtle decals and gold in place of the original’s orange accents. It’s not as recognisable - or arresting - as the first, but there’s no denying it’s a smart-looking thing, and arguably the one many would find easier to live with in the long run.

Aside from the visual changes, the DS 3 Performance received a power bump to 208hp, closer gearing and a limited-slip differential, which the Racing sorely needed. That being said, the Performance is said to be a little softer than the Racing, which is saying something given the old car wasn’t exactly the last word in stiffness. Nevertheless, the extra grunt matched with the tweaked gearbox and LSD were all praised by reviewers, and while it’s not the most focused of hot hatches, it’s up there in terms of usability. 

Looks the business, too, especially in ‘Black’ trim like this one. And it’s not like you see them everyday, either. Just over 150 were sold here, if HowManyLeft is anything to go by, matching UK registrations for the DS 3 Racing. This one could be yours for £9,990 with 45k miles and a full service history, which is a nice saving over this lower-mileage car. But if you’d prefer your DS 3 in a bonkers colour scheme with delightfully silly graphics, you can grab this 2012 example with 87k miles for a £3k discount…


SPECIFICATION | DS 3 PERFORMANCE BLACK

Engine: 1,598 four-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 208@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 221@3,000rpm
MPG: 52.3
CO2: 125g/km
Year registered: 2017
Recorded mileage: 45,000
Price new: £22,495
Yours for: £9,990

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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,200 posts

221 months

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I’d long forgotten this even existed, which may be part of the problem.

I can’t see it being desired in the future in the same way 205 GTis or R5 GT Turbos are, it’s rather dull.

bigyoungdave

231 posts

38 months

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Hmm, seems a decent price for that performance. Don't like it aesthetically, though I like the seats.

BigGingerBob

1,915 posts

201 months

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I think the DS3 is a really nice looking hatchback. Whoever designed the current one needs glasses though.

I would have one of these if I hadn't experienced the same engine in a DS4. It was fairly rapid but fairly troublesome too.

MattsCar

1,535 posts

116 months

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Would this be any better to drive than a Fiesta ST, which could be had for less?

Oiyou

112 posts

117 months

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I really like these, would be even better with the roll back roof.

Shame it has *that* engine. Might give you a few years before something terminal happens, might give you a few months.


macron

11,321 posts

177 months

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I really, really, really wanted to like this, unfortunately the interior, the dash in particular, was gash when it came out, and it really hasn't got any better. Squeaks, rattles, flimsy bits, ride was poor too.

They rinsed this model with heaps of different versions, which sold well in Europe and to youngers at the time. Naff all space in the back as you'd expect, fine if you really don't need anyone in there for any length of time, a tiny boot (more a pocket in the cabriolets).

Can't help but think an even smaller Fiesta ST, if you can stay on top of the tin worm, would be better and easier to love with in almost every way.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025032104...

SimonTheSailor

12,764 posts

239 months

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macron said:
Can't help but think an even smaller Fiesta ST, if you can stay on top of the tin worm, would be better and easier to love with in almost every way.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025032104...
I feel sure that the Fiesta ST would be a better all round car and for a third of the price a bargain - the first photo though just shows it's a really boring shape/front end - think I'd be disappointed just looking at it.
Didn't the next model look a lot better and would still be cheaper ?

FamousPheasant

713 posts

127 months

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I would probably go for the sister car to this, the 208 gti BPS, but these do look good.

Water Fairy

5,978 posts

166 months

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SimonTheSailor said:
macron said:
Can't help but think an even smaller Fiesta ST, if you can stay on top of the tin worm, would be better and easier to love with in almost every way.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025032104...
I feel sure that the Fiesta ST would be a better all round car and for a third of the price a bargain - the first photo though just shows it's a really boring shape/front end - think I'd be disappointed just looking at it.
Didn't the next model look a lot better and would still be cheaper ?
You can get a mk7.5 st180 for this kind of money which absolutely is a better car to drive. Not without its own problems though.

Zephyr Speedshop

2,496 posts

165 months

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GTEYE said:
I’d long forgotten this even existed, which may be part of the problem.

I can’t see it being desired in the future in the same way 205 GTis or R5 GT Turbos are, it’s rather dull.
that's the thing though its actually not, its really really good. I have the 208 GTI by Peugeot sport which this shares the underpinnings with. there an exceptional chassis. and great fun to drive its basically a baby RS cup megane.

the standard GTI is ok but is uninspiring. if Peugeot and citron had launched the base GTi , DS3 racing as the 30th/BPS or performance chassis and spec. the fiesta st long forgotten. its a shame the horse had bolted by the time this came to market.

there were the following numbers in the uk
130 - 208 30ths
420 - 208 bps
117 - d3 performance
52 - DS3 performance Black

pretty rare for such a good car.



mooseracer

2,272 posts

181 months

Thursday
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Water Fairy said:
SimonTheSailor said:
macron said:
Can't help but think an even smaller Fiesta ST, if you can stay on top of the tin worm, would be better and easier to love with in almost every way.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025032104...
I feel sure that the Fiesta ST would be a better all round car and for a third of the price a bargain - the first photo though just shows it's a really boring shape/front end - think I'd be disappointed just looking at it.
Didn't the next model look a lot better and would still be cheaper ?
You can get a mk7.5 st180 for this kind of money which absolutely is a better car to drive. Not without its own problems though.
Not many problems, unless I'm a bit out of touch now (been a good few years since I sold my ST)

The Pistonsdead

4,870 posts

218 months

Thursday
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Decent amount of kit and with rarity too a fair price I reckon.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,310 posts

109 months

Thursday
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When it comes to often forgotten Citroen rally cars, don't forget the often forgotten Visa 1000 Pistes with 4wd, bespoke interior and a tuned engine..

Pugfection1987

3 posts

52 months

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The C4 By Loeb wasn't even a VTS, it was just a 110bhp 1.6l.

CarlosSainz100

598 posts

131 months

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Don't these have an engine that blows up or was that the previous DS3 Racing?

Decky_Q

1,754 posts

188 months

Thursday
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Unfortunately yes and the same in both pretty much.

Zephyr Speedshop

2,496 posts

165 months

CarlosSainz100 said:
Don't these have an engine that blows up or was that the previous DS3 Racing?
Decky_Q said:
Unfortunately yes and the same in both pretty much.
Not true these have the later THP208 engine. Which is significantly more reliable than the THP200 found in the racing and pre facelift GTI.

Once bmw left the program, PSA were able to iron out all the issues BMW introduced.laugh

20k in mine and only had to replace a coil pack. Shes on 70k now. Like anything if there kept serviced and looked after there fine.

Edit ! That includes 6 trackdays too

Edited by Zephyr Speedshop on Friday 28th March 08:52

JonRS

62 posts

192 months

The later prince engines are no better, I sadly know from bitter experience due to a 208 bps failing on me. This engine is junk.

CG2020UK

2,474 posts

51 months

JonRS said:
The later prince engines are no better, I sadly know from bitter experience due to a 208 bps failing on me. This engine is junk.
I’ve had two 208 GTIs and engines were faultless. Know 3 other owners personally all the same even with 2 being remapped.

Personally know 4 Fiesta STs that went boom and were shifted to WBAC. How many Clio RS need constant tinkering.