Tesco parking fine from January

Tesco parking fine from January

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Slothly

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63 posts

36 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Apologies as this has probably been done to death but my Google Fu fails me.

A friend has just received the letter below demanding £170 or threatening court action over apparently staying over the allowed hours in Tescos car park back in January.

This is the first and only letter she has received on the matter and she is adamant that she would not have overstayed.

Is there anything she can do beyond Citizens Advice and writing for local councillors involvement? Anyone have any experience of receiving a final demand but none earlier?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Racing Newt

1,253 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th March
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First tell your friend DO NOT ADMIT TO BEING THE DRIVER AT ANY TIME. Next contact the Tesco where they were parked and talk to the manager asking him to get the matter voided, as they were a customer shopping at Tesco.
Next, can they remember if they visited the car park more than once that day. The systems used cannot/do not differentiate between multiple visits in a 24 hour period,
At the moment it would seem that this is an invoice, (no court action has been taken), not a fine/penalty, so engage with the parking company, and get them to expand on the "overstay" period. Have a look at money saving expert, reference the parking ticket section.

No ideas for a name

2,559 posts

98 months

Tuesday 25th March
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If it is genuinely the first correspondence, then the Parking Company are out of luck as they haven't complied with the requirements for Notice to Keeper (where a notice to driver was not given).

Of course, they will say they did. You can't easily prove you didn't receive one and throw it away. They, if naughty, could realise their mistake and send you a 'copy'.

Tesco may or may not wish to help as they may or may not own the land.
As mentioned above, the systems are not always that good at determining double visits.
Do you have any useful proof such as a dashcam (probably long overwritten I guess) or any Google tracking info turned on?

However, if you haven't complied with the rules, then you may be on the hook for the invoice.


Edited by No ideas for a name on Tuesday 25th March 16:35

Mikebentley

7,026 posts

152 months

Tuesday 25th March
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That letter seems very scant on actual information

E-bmw

10,577 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Mikebentley said:
That letter seems very scant on actual information
My thoughts also, but then it is from Bailiffs, not a car park enforcement organisation.

alscar

6,007 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Must be going blind but where does that letter refer to Tesco’s ?
It seems to relate to a Retail Park which on a quick Google says “ next “ to a Tescos express.
I would go back to the management company that passed the details to the bailiffs and protest my innocence on whatever grounds your friend thinks is pertinent and ask for the so called debt to be recalled.
Cc the bailiffs.

martinbiz

3,531 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th March
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E-bmw said:
My thoughts also, but then it is from Bailiffs, not a car park enforcement organisation.
No it isn't, they are flyboys trying it on to make you think that, hence the name and the "can't pay take it away" reference and yet on the same letter it says "this case is not subject to high court or bailiff action" not far away from the BPA logo they are showing laugh Last time I checked high court bailiffs didn't belong to the BPA

A correctly worded letter pointing out their misdemeanors and errors will probably see it disappear

martinbiz

3,531 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th March
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alscar said:
Must be going blind but where does that letter refer to Tesco’s ?
It seems to relate to a Retail Park which on a quick Google says “ next “ to a Tescos express.
I would go back to the management company that passed the details to the bailiffs and protest my innocence on whatever grounds your friend thinks is pertinent and ask for the so called debt to be recalled.
Cc the bailiffs.
They are NOT bailiffs

dundarach

5,565 posts

240 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Reply confirming their suggestion and asking how you can take them up on their offer of appealing it in court. That'll play with their minds.

Thank them and ask what you should do next.

stuarthat

1,103 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th March
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My brother had similar he had evidence that didn’t overstay ,what happens in his case if you follow the car in front close the camera misses the reg.

Uncle boshy

399 posts

81 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Strongly recommend reading money saving expert on this.

I got caught on something which I was somewhat aggrieved about and was planning to write an explanation of the scenario and requesting the notice to be cancelled

Mse forum said don’t do that and instead provided a proforma response which got the notice cancelled straight away

No ideas for a name

2,559 posts

98 months

Tuesday 25th March
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She needs the original NtK from UK Parking Control.
It is required to have the entry and exit times on it - from that you can make more sense of the request.

It can make her more sure of an overstay or not.

[I had one recently where I was accused of overstaying at Wickes.. stated 08:30 to 19:00 - but I had been twice for about 15 mins each visit and could prove I was somwhere else in the middle, was dropped when I asked them to review the video]


Slothly

Original Poster:

63 posts

36 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Many thanks to all for the replies so far. PH is so, so much more useful than Facebook!

Will pass all advice received on tomorrow and ultimately update.

Thanks again. smile

Hugo Stiglitz

38,828 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Abit weird. You've not had any letters nor a CCJ from a missed court attendance?


Ham_and_Jam

2,920 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Abit weird. You've not had any letters nor a CCJ from a missed court attendance?
This is just the ‘scary letter’ before all of that.

No ideas for a name

2,559 posts

98 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Abit weird. You've not had any letters nor a CCJ from a missed court attendance?
It hasn't been to court.
The firm of bailifs are not being bailifs at this stage.. they are just inviting the OP's friend to pay on behalf of their client. Providing a service of collecting money for the invoice.
Next will come letters from 'fake' solicitors - often with the same address as the parking company.

Hugo Stiglitz

38,828 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Ah yes it's written from a bailiff company yet I'm small print at the bottom 'not subject to bailiff action' laugh

Designed and written to worry someone to pay. I'll be honest I'd panic if I opened that.

Ham_and_Jam

2,920 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th March
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No ideas for a name said:
It hasn't been to court.
The firm of bailifs are not being bailifs at this stage.. they are just inviting the OP's friend to pay on behalf of their client. Providing a service of collecting money for the invoice.
Next will come letters from 'fake' solicitors - often with the same address as the parking company.
Maybe I’ve imagined it. I seem to recall a legal bod on a consumer type programme that said parking firms should not (maybe in a code of practice) impersonate solicitors / bailiffs / legal entities.

Is this a thing?

E-bmw

10,577 posts

164 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Slothly said:
PH is so, so much more useful than Facebook!
P!ssing in the wind is more useful than faceberk, you should know that by now.

cobra kid

5,327 posts

252 months

Wednesday 26th March
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alscar said:
Must be going blind but where does that letter refer to Tesco’s ?

It never will. It's "Tesco"