Yet another mattress thread

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gregch

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384 posts

80 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Yes, my apologies, another mattress thread. We've been searching for decent mattress for years, ever since we decided our old one was too old and should be replaced. That was a mistake, it was super comfortable, pocket spring with 'only' 1258 springs and filling layers of cotton felt and wool. It was made by Hypnos but it's become evident that Hypnos mattresses then and Hypnos mattresses now are not the same thing.

Most recently (although nearly 5 years ago now) we tried something completely different, being a latex one from Naturalmat which I find OK but my wife just can't get on with. I think we want to go back to a pocket spring mattress.

I totally get that everyone's different, we should try them all, etc etc, but...

Does anyone have a mattress (that they've had for at least a couple of years, not just bought) and is still comfortable? What is it?

Thanks!

Quattr04.

425 posts

2 months

Tuesday 25th March
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John Lewis natural wool in medium firm, it’s pocket spring and then has a wool topper, great in the summer to keep cool

Also have a tempur in the spare room which is very comfy and everyone comments on how good it is, but i find I get very hot in it during the summer


gregch

Original Poster:

384 posts

80 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Quattr04. said:
John Lewis natural wool in medium firm, it’s pocket spring and then has a wool topper, great in the summer to keep cool

Also have a tempur in the spare room which is very comfy and everyone comments on how good it is, but i find I get very hot in it during the summer
Thanks, I guess that's one of the ones Harrison Spinks makes for JL? JL's range seems really complicated!

Personally I'm not a fan of tempur or any kind of foam stuff, just can't get on with it at all.

Seems really hard to find a mattress that's just got a single layer of basic pocket springs and a bit of cotton felt and wool, I guess because marketing. Anyway, I'm an old man yelling at clouds...

Any other positive mattress experiences??

Simpo Two

88,204 posts

276 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Following advice here I got a cheap mattress from IKEA. It needs turning every week to stop the middle getting too dippy but it's so light it's very easy. Good value IMHO. Can't remember the same but it was about £200 IIRC.

Like the OP I see no reason for something a foot thick with 50 layers of marketing guff, it's just more to subside.

DorsetSparky

256 posts

21 months

Tuesday 25th March
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gregch said:
Does anyone have a mattress (that they've had for at least a couple of years, not just bought) and is still comfortable? What is it?

Thanks!
Simba. It's great.

8-P

2,929 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th March
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3 Simbas in our house all very much loved

FourWheelDrift

90,206 posts

295 months

Tuesday 25th March
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You also have to match up the pillows to your mattress to get your spine comfortable. Your older mattress made have gotten softer over time and your pillows worked with it, now a newer firmer mattress doesn't work with the pillows. Depending on if you are a side, front or back (snorer) sleeper try one pillow, or two, softer or harder. Some people think the mattress is at fault when it's the pillows.

Something to sleep on.

PhilboSE

5,010 posts

237 months

Tuesday 25th March
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John Lewis Natural Collection is good.

Vispring even better, at a price.

DorsetSparky

256 posts

21 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Panda bamboo pillows to go with the Simba mattress.
Thank me later!

Quattr04.

425 posts

2 months

Tuesday 25th March
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gregch said:
Thanks, I guess that's one of the ones Harrison Spinks makes for JL? JL's range seems really complicated!

Personally I'm not a fan of tempur or any kind of foam stuff, just can't get on with it at all.

Seems really hard to find a mattress that's just got a single layer of basic pocket springs and a bit of cotton felt and wool, I guess because marketing. Anyway, I'm an old man yelling at clouds...

Any other positive mattress experiences??
Yes it’s the Harrison spinks one, I wouldn’t buy another tempur, it’s really comfy but I don’t find it supportive in the same way

I’ve tried a simber and a Emma one too, I would only describe them as comfy if you’re been sleeping on a lumpy old mattress before

Tisy

269 posts

3 months

Tuesday 25th March
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gregch said:
I totally get that everyone's different, we should try them all, etc etc, but...

Does anyone have a mattress (that they've had for at least a couple of years, not just bought) and is still comfortable? What is it?
I don't wish to sound harsh, but asking people what mattress they recommend for you is about as useful as asking people what food they recommend for you hehe . It's a pointless exercise unfortunately, because everyone's body is different: sleeping positions, muscle mass, core strength - all those play a part in your comfort level and firmness feel.

You need to get yourself and the wife down to the bed sheds like Bensons and try them all out - every type they have in. I won't bore you with my own personal story of how I wasted a lot of money buying various recommendations from internet forums only to quickly discover I hated them as they crippled me to various lengths, but suffice to say if I'd just gone down to Bensons to begin with then I would have instantly ruled out several types of construction that I just don't gel with, eventually narrowing it down to a couple of pure memory foam construction which works well for my sleeping position, and then ultimately buying an Ergoflex.

I've had the luxurious pure talalay latex and 3 million pocket spring mattresses that everyone raves about, and they were absolute torture for me. Don't buy one based on someone else's opinion as it won't end well for you. Make sure you lay on it for 10 minutes before deciding to buy and also spend some time looking at the lower-rated reviews online as this will provide you wtih some clues whether it's going to look like a bathtub after a year..

Simpo Two

88,204 posts

276 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Tisy said:
You need to get yourself and the wife down to the bed sheds like Bensons and try them all out - every type they have in.
The only snag with that is that they all feel lovely in the shop - but it's no indication of what they'll feel like after a few months use. Subsidence is the problem that gets me - once the lower back is in a dip, bending the spine, you'll get bad sleep and backache and the store won't care.

RobbieTheTruth

1,954 posts

130 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Ask Tim Deegan

stemll

4,513 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Eve premium hybrid. Currently £1050 for a King but often reduced and we paid £580 just over a year ago.

It is as good as new with zero evidence of any dips. We have spent a lot of money on mattresses over the years and this is the best by far and under £600 at the time we bought it.

Tisy

269 posts

3 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Simpo Two said:
Tisy said:
You need to get yourself and the wife down to the bed sheds like Bensons and try them all out - every type they have in.
The only snag with that is that they all feel lovely in the shop - but it's no indication of what they'll feel like after a few months use. Subsidence is the problem that gets me - once the lower back is in a dip, bending the spine, you'll get bad sleep and backache and the store won't care.
Yep! That's exactly the issue I had, and that was when they were brand new! Hence my closing comment to read reviews because if it sags like a hammock after a year. there will be plenty of bad reviews saying so. Paying more money doesn't necessarily equate to better quality either. My work partner spent £2.5k on a Tempur a few years ago and couldn't shut up about it, but his tune has now changed and is telling anyone who'll listen to avoid them as it's sagged on both sides. The retailer sent out an "engineer" to confirm the defect and of course said that the dipping is within tolerance and the best they will do is knock £100 off if he buys a new one from them rolleyes .

If not for his story I would have likely bought a Tempur myself as it was supremely comfy for me when I tried one for 15 mins, but no way I'm paying that money for it to be failing a couple of years later, hence why I bought the poor-man's version (Ergoflex) for £400 in a sale and still all good 18 months on.

I sometimes wonder whether the £100 no-name mattresses on Amazon are the way to go. Most genuine-looking reviews seem to say that it's comfy for a year then basically knackered, so just chuck it out and spend £100 on a new one laugh . You could do that every year for 25 years until you match the cost of your Tempur, and your Tempur would definitely be knackered well before you reached that point! scratchchin

Danns

355 posts

70 months

Wednesday 26th March
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No one mentioned John Ryan yet?

Purchased mine in 2016 - still best mattress I've slept on. Other half agrees.

No intention to follow the "must replace every 10 years" mattress thing, it doesn't appear in any way to have deteriorated in any way I can notice.

paralla

4,387 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th March
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We have a bed from Winstons beds. The pricing means they are not for everyone but there is some good information on their web site about other brands and matress construction that might be helpful.

https://winstonsbeds.com/

Simpo Two

88,204 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Tisy said:
The retailer sent out an "engineer" to confirm the defect and of course said that the dipping is within tolerance and the best they will do is knock £100 off if he buys a new one from them rolleyes
I will never forget the stbag who came out to look at my Sleepmasters mattress which was suffering from bad subsidence after a few months. When he was with me and measured the sag he agreed it was faulty, but after he left he changed his report to say it was OK. I wouldn't be surprised if there's money involved.

Tisy said:
I sometimes wonder whether the £100 no-name mattresses on Amazon are the way to go. Most genuine-looking reviews seem to say that it's comfy for a year then basically knackered, so just chuck it out and spend £100 on a new one laugh . You could do that every year for 25 years until you match the cost of your Tempur, and your Tempur would definitely be knackered well before you reached that point! scratchchin
That's rather the approach I'm taking with the IKEA one. It also weighs basically nothing so easy to flip over.

Tisy

269 posts

3 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Simpo Two said:
Tisy said:
The retailer sent out an "engineer" to confirm the defect and of course said that the dipping is within tolerance and the best they will do is knock £100 off if he buys a new one from them rolleyes
I will never forget the stbag who came out to look at my Sleepmasters mattress which was suffering from bad subsidence after a few months. When he was with me and measured the sag he agreed it was faulty, but after he left he changed his report to say it was OK. I wouldn't be surprised if there's money involved.
Agreed. The guarantees aren't worth the paper they are written on. As soon as they have your money, you are on your own.

paralla

4,387 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th March
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I had a man come and inspect two John Lewis Natural Collection mattresses that both ended up sagging in the middle within the 7 year gaurantee period and both were replaced free of charge. The third time it happened I gave up on them, that's how we ended up with a Winston bed.