Cheap Run Around

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CuriousNewbie

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5 posts

1 month

Tuesday 25th March
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Hi all, I am hoping for some help.

I am looking for a cheap run around that does pretty much everything! The car will only do about 10k miles a year at most and 99% of that will be round town driving. It is indended to be a sensible car, cheap road tax, cheap to run and cheap to buy + reliable if possible, always a positive.

So far I have come up with a few options but wanted to see what people think or if anyone has any other suggestions:

Tesla Model 3
MG Model 4
Volvo V60
BMW 320d

All of which are around £10 - 15k with less that 50k miles and around 3-4 years old.

So what do you think?

P.S - I never thought id buy an electric car but they depreciate so badly it makes them appealing for a sensible option.

Morry10

179 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Based on your criteria I would think a Nissan Leaf might be a potential?

For your budget you can get a pretty new one like (example)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502048...

If you are willing to go a little older you can go for the bigger battery one - however you said mostly round town driving so I did not think power etc was that important for that style of driving (although extra range might be nice I guess).

ChrisH72

2,474 posts

64 months

Tuesday 25th March
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I'd say that mostly town driving rules out the 320d or any other diesel.

On the face of it you need a small petrol supermini for that job. Something like a Fiesta or Yaris etc. But I'm guessing you would still like a bit more luxury which a bigger car can offer?

10k miles at around 40mpg would be about £1500 in fuel. If you can charge at home then that cost comes down to maybe a couple of hundred quid on a cheap overnight tariff. Plus 0 tax on older EVs adds to the incentive. Are all EVs going to pay VED or just new ones (I don't know)? So an EV could work really well.

Many people say the Tesla is best if you can live with the image. I've not tried one. A 4 year old model 3 with under 50k miles is slightly above your £15k limit but not much. It'd be standard range but that would seem fine. I'd be wary of the MG as reliability and dealer backup appear quite sketchy.

I'd probably throw £10k at something like an e208 or a Corsa E. Or spend half that on the petrol versions.

ChrisH72

2,474 posts

64 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Nissan Leaf is a great suggestion.

Go a little older and save even more.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025011680...

Nice bright yellow e208

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025022093...

Must admit this MG4 looks quite smart.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025031903...

Others might comment on the reliability.

It is amazing how much EV you can get for your money these days. I'm not surprised you're tempted.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,342 posts

55 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Amazing that some describe a £10-15k car as a cheap run around!
I was expecting a thread looking for something like £1500. rolleyes

bmwmike

7,646 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th March
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LightweightLouisDanvers said:
Amazing that some describe a £10-15k car as a cheap run around!
I was expecting a thread looking for something like £1500. rolleyes
Exactly my thoughts; i subscribed to this thread looking for some gems as i need a little runabout to keep my ncb going.

66HFM

613 posts

37 months

Tuesday 25th March
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ChrisH72 said:
I'd say that mostly town driving rules out the 320d or any other diesel.

On the face of it you need a small petrol supermini for that job. Something like a Fiesta or Yaris etc. But I'm guessing you would still like a bit more luxury which a bigger car can offer?

10k miles at around 40mpg would be about £1500 in fuel. If you can charge at home then that cost comes down to maybe a couple of hundred quid on a cheap overnight tariff. Plus 0 tax on older EVs adds to the incentive. Are all EVs going to pay VED or just new ones (I don't know)? So an EV could work really well.

Many people say the Tesla is best if you can live with the image. I've not tried one. A 4 year old model 3 with under 50k miles is slightly above your £15k limit but not much. It'd be standard range but that would seem fine. I'd be wary of the MG as reliability and dealer backup appear quite sketchy.

I'd probably throw £10k at something like an e208 or a Corsa E. Or spend half that on the petrol versions.
EVs registered post 1st April 2017 will pay VED from 1st April @ £195 / year, only ones registered pre April 2017 will pay £0.

As per a couple of other quotes, my idea of a cheap run around was in the £1k-£2k bracket rather than £10k-£15k...

We've got a Honda e:Ny1 on one of the cheap PCPs that Honda were throwing big money at last year, the biggest surprise / shock has been the range in winter which has seen it drop from 250m to 160m and that is without having the heater on... Although saying that if we needed to go much further we take our ICE car.

_Hoppers

1,456 posts

77 months

Tuesday 25th March
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How about a BMW i3. Aluminium chassis and carbon fibre shell! I’ve just picked a 5 year old model with 25k miles for £11.5k. Keeping my 320d for longer journeys etc

Edited by _Hoppers on Tuesday 25th March 14:53

ARHarh

4,525 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th March
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bmwmike said:
LightweightLouisDanvers said:
Amazing that some describe a £10-15k car as a cheap run around!
I was expecting a thread looking for something like £1500. rolleyes
Exactly my thoughts; i subscribed to this thread looking for some gems as i need a little runabout to keep my ncb going.
Me too

but I did find this, its in budget and should be cheap to run smile

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146155155359?_skw=bentl...



croyde

24,417 posts

242 months

Tuesday 25th March
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LightweightLouisDanvers said:
Amazing that some describe a £10-15k car as a cheap run around!
I was expecting a thread looking for something like £1500. rolleyes
Same here biggrin

I bought a Duster new in 2021 for £10,500. I considered that a cheap NEW runabout.

Now, only 4 years later, they are almost £20k for the base model. I don't call that cheap, but maybe the OP would consider one.

I'd recommend the Dacia. Frugal on fuel, easy to look after and not complicated with loads to go wrong.

I used mine to drive the length and breadth of the UK in comfort, dump runs, removals, kid duty, bit of soft roading and after all that, easy to clean out.

Sold mine for almost what I'd paid for it, but wish I'd kept it now.

Such a useful car.

Truckosaurus

12,412 posts

296 months

Tuesday 25th March
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bmwmike said:
Exactly my thoughts; i subscribed to this thread looking for some gems as i need a little runabout to keep my ncb going.
Run a quote through one of the online insurance tools saying you have no NCB and you might be surprised how close to the 'discounted' price it is (even before thinking about the cost of paying a year or more of insurance just to retain it, let alone buying a car for the purpose).

bmwmike

7,646 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Truckosaurus said:
Run a quote through one of the online insurance tools saying you have no NCB and you might be surprised how close to the 'discounted' price it is (even before thinking about the cost of paying a year or more of insurance just to retain it, let alone buying a car for the purpose).
Thanks, yeah, but i'm reluctant to give up 14 years NCB and i'm at 2.5 years already since i last insured in my name, so my pool of insurers has diminished already as most only go to 2 years. It might not make much difference as you say, but psychologically it does.

Do get your point though, by the time purchase cost, tax, insurance etc.

_Hoppers

1,456 posts

77 months

Tuesday 25th March
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bmwmike said:
Thanks, yeah, but i'm reluctant to give up 14 years NCB and i'm at 2.5 years already since i last insured in my name, so my pool of insurers has diminished already as most only go to 2 years. It might not make much difference as you say, but psychologically it does.

Do get your point though, by the time purchase cost, tax, insurance etc.
Could you use the NCB on a 50cc scooter?

ARHarh

4,525 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th March
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bmwmike said:
Truckosaurus said:
Run a quote through one of the online insurance tools saying you have no NCB and you might be surprised how close to the 'discounted' price it is (even before thinking about the cost of paying a year or more of insurance just to retain it, let alone buying a car for the purpose).
Thanks, yeah, but i'm reluctant to give up 14 years NCB and i'm at 2.5 years already since i last insured in my name, so my pool of insurers has diminished already as most only go to 2 years. It might not make much difference as you say, but psychologically it does.

Do get your point though, by the time purchase cost, tax, insurance etc.
But you will still be 14 years without a claim, does not matter how long you let the NCB lapse for. When i insured a second car with zero no claims, compared to using my full 30 odd years NCB, it made no difference at all. They did not mirror NCB, it just cost about 2% more with zero NCB. This was 8 years ago though.

Pickle_Rick

437 posts

72 months

Tuesday 25th March
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An EV will be perfect for your use case. Lots of choice under £15k.

A 2021 or later Chinese built M3 will be the most reliable but probably out of budget, or a lexus Uxe.

Id avoid VW, audi, citroen (or anything stellany) and MG, far too many issues with their EVs

But if it's just for around town, as mentioned an older leaf or zoe for under £10k will do the job. I3 is interesting too, I've never actually driven one but do like the looks. The S model is better but probably overkill given you'll be town driving

Edited by Pickle_Rick on Tuesday 25th March 21:05

Tony_T

822 posts

93 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Renault Twizy?

Tony_T

822 posts

93 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Renault Twizy?

Pickle_Rick

437 posts

72 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Tony_T said:
Renault Twizy?
They're cool, but I wouldn't want to do 10k miles a year in one like OP. do they even have a heater?

rlg43p

1,365 posts

261 months

Tuesday 25th March
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_Hoppers said:
How about a BMW i3. Aluminium chassis and carbon fibre shell! I’ve just picked a 5 year old model with 25k miles for £11.5k. Keeping my 320d for longer journeys etc

Edited by _Hoppers on Tuesday 25th March 14:53
How do you find it. I've been considering one - took a non-S version for a test drive and thought the ride was bone-shakingly bad. The i3S must be grim.

Perhaps a change of suspension components would improve things.

Otherwise its a fairly compelling proposition compared to a new EV.

_Hoppers

1,456 posts

77 months

Wednesday 26th March
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rlg43p said:
_Hoppers said:
How about a BMW i3. Aluminium chassis and carbon fibre shell! I’ve just picked a 5 year old model with 25k miles for £11.5k. Keeping my 320d for longer journeys etc

Edited by _Hoppers on Tuesday 25th March 14:53
How do you find it. I've been considering one - took a non-S version for a test drive and thought the ride was bone-shakingly bad. The i3S must be grim.

Perhaps a change of suspension components would improve things.

Otherwise its a fairly compelling proposition compared to a new EV.
Yeah, the suspension is a bit firm, compared to the 320 it's definitely not as refined. I picked up the i3 on Friday and had a weekend away and went in the 320 so haven't driven many miles yet, but I'm getting accustomed to the suspension. The route to work from home has some dreadful roads (bumps, potholes, rough surface) so you notice it, but after work yesterday I called at my Mum's where the roads on that route are decent so I didn't particularly notice the firmness. It corners better than I expected, grip doesn't seem too bad especially with the skinny tyres, It could be quite fun on the twistys I think?! Around town it's great, quiet and smooth, and it doesn't feel like I'm wrecking the motor like I do with the 320 when stuck in traffic. For me, sitting in congestion doesn't see as bad when in an EV.

From the reviews I wouldn't consider an i3s although they do look a bit better. I also considered the Honda E, crap range and a bit more expensive than the i3 and a Mazda MX30, cheap but crap range. The i3 seemed like a little gem when considering the alternatives.

PS The work commute on Monday I got 4.8miles/kw going and 4.9 returning. Currently averaging 4.3 which seems decent considering it's still a bit nippy in the mornings?!

Edited by _Hoppers on Wednesday 26th March 09:05