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Mario149

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7,785 posts

189 months

Tuesday 25th March
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So after faffing with lots of other stuff on the 993 it's now driveable again after over a year, happy days smile However, it desperately needs the alignment I was referring to in this previous thread...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I've got it booked in at Porsche Marbella, so I'm now taking bets on how much they think they can charge me for a 4 wheel alignment. Labour rate is 160€ + VAT (25% more expensive than the nearby Ferrari main dealer!) frown

I don't think they've clocked that it's a 993 rather than a modern one, so is there anything I should be emphasising before I give it to them? I'm aware of the kinematic toe setting, and I've got the required specs from Centre Gravity for the whole thing which they kindly re-provided after 10 years, but if there's a way for it to be ballsed up, I guarantee you they'll find it (the Ferrari dealer tried to charge me 10+ hours labour to diagnose a faulty MAF...).

Out of interest, do modern 911s have kinematic toe as well?

stuckmojo

3,364 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th March
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€160/hr labour rate?

In the UK, Porsche OPC likely charge double that.


Mario149

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189 months

Tuesday 25th March
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Which is one of the reasons I'm not in the UK anymore smile

Mario149

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Tuesday 25th March
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They want 3 hours for the alignment.... eek

f6box

176 posts

8 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Surely you have other, better options than an OPC for getting a 993 aligned?

Mario149

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7,785 posts

189 months

Wednesday 26th March
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There appears to be one other Porsche specialist in Marbella, have emailed them but no response yet. Issue down here is that you have to be proper moneyed by spanish standards to afford anything resembling a 911 of any flavour. So there are very few about, and of the few that you do see, they're almost always modern ones. So very few specialists in general.

In 4 years here I think I've only seen one or two 993s in the wild apart from mine

FL Racing

85 posts

23 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Your local quikfit equivalent can do an alignment on a 993 why take it to a Porsche dealer who more than likely will sub it out, if anything like a uk OPC?

f6box

176 posts

8 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Any actually competent service provider will be able to align a 993 to factory spec.

I would not at all assume an OPC will do a better job for this kind of thing. The opposite, if anything.

Mercdriver

2,905 posts

44 months

Wednesday 26th March
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What about the Scottish mechanic in Marbella? If he is still in business or perhaps his daughter has taken over. He used to employ several ex Porsche mechanics

the cueball

1,401 posts

66 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Mercdriver said:
What about the Scottish mechanic in Marbella? If he is still in business or perhaps his daughter has taken over. He used to employ several ex Porsche mechanics
I thought the same..


https://www.englishmobilemechanics.com/index.php

Mercdriver

2,905 posts

44 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Good to see he is still in business, always struck me as a no nonsense guy.

If you watched the programmes on discovery he seemed to be fair in his business dealings.


Interesting page on his website about repairing Porsches without the high labour charges.


Good luck!

pete.g

1,530 posts

217 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Just find any wheel/tyre place that has the Hunter Hawk-eye machine and they'll sort out your alignment. They'll be doing it all the time, whilst Porsche techs are doing all manner of tasks.

maura

354 posts

34 months

Wednesday 26th March
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Have you tried the other Porsche one, Sportswagen San Pedro Poligno? Always found them more competent and reasonable over the Puerto Banus one.

Mario149

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7,785 posts

189 months

Wednesday 26th March
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f6box said:
Any actually competent service provider will be able to align a 993 to factory spec.

I would not at all assume an OPC will do a better job for this kind of thing. The opposite, if anything.
That's not what I've been told by Center Gravity and others on here (and seen on other forums). From what I understand 993s are the only 911 that has Kinematic Toe adjustment, and it requires a special tool to measure/set. If you don't have the tool and know what you're doing, you can't do it, and only garages that are familiar with 993s will (may) have it.

If you can't do the Kinematic Toe, then on the rear wheels you're limited to only safely adjusting the toe in, if I recall what CG told me over the phone yesterday.

Mario149

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Wednesday 26th March
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the cueball said:
Mercdriver said:
What about the Scottish mechanic in Marbella? If he is still in business or perhaps his daughter has taken over. He used to employ several ex Porsche mechanics
I thought the same..


https://www.englishmobilemechanics.com/index.php
Will take a look, thanks

Mario149

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7,785 posts

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Wednesday 26th March
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maura said:
Have you tried the other Porsche one, Sportswagen San Pedro Poligno? Always found them more competent and reasonable over the Puerto Banus one.
I messaged them yesterday, waiting for a response thumbup