Linking 2 sets of kitchen cabinet lights
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Can you access the 'ceiling rose' (probably a lump of choccy block or a junction box in reality) for each set of lights in the loft or floor above?
Chuck a picture of what you have and we might have a better idea...
Are the switches in the same back box and is there a neutral in there (not a switched live)?
Chuck a picture of what you have and we might have a better idea...
Are the switches in the same back box and is there a neutral in there (not a switched live)?
Edited by Baldchap on Thursday 20th March 10:14
If hard wiring is too difficult then smart relays could be the answer, assuming you're happy with smart stuff.
I have a floodlight down the side of my house thats switched from the kitchen. I also wanted the garden lights to come on but they are switched from the living room.
I stuck a no neutral Sonoff smart relay behind each switch, and set the garden light to sync to the side light. The modules use zigbee though so you'll need a zigbee hub.
The only fly in the ointment is I used the Google Home YAML code to do it. You might be able to do it with the normal point and click set up though.
I have a floodlight down the side of my house thats switched from the kitchen. I also wanted the garden lights to come on but they are switched from the living room.
I stuck a no neutral Sonoff smart relay behind each switch, and set the garden light to sync to the side light. The modules use zigbee though so you'll need a zigbee hub.
The only fly in the ointment is I used the Google Home YAML code to do it. You might be able to do it with the normal point and click set up though.
Edited by 98elise on Thursday 20th March 12:53
Have a look at Quinetic switches & receivers:
https://www.quinetic.co.uk/#products
You don't need a physical connection from the switch to the receivers/lights being controlled & you can pair more than one RX to a switch. They seem to have expanded the range of switches & receivers, including one for LED tape lighting.
https://www.quinetic.co.uk/#products
You don't need a physical connection from the switch to the receivers/lights being controlled & you can pair more than one RX to a switch. They seem to have expanded the range of switches & receivers, including one for LED tape lighting.
Something like this OP?
One of these for each lighting run https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QUR305.html?...
And then the switch https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QUWS1W.html
One of these for each lighting run https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QUR305.html?...
And then the switch https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/QUWS1W.html
Baldchap said:
Shelley also do a lot of stuff that would do this but whatever you use, you need to know what you already have to plan how to achieve what you want.
Most of the smart kit needs a neutral in the back box, with exceptions of course, but what you have impacts what you need.
That's one of the advantages of the Quinetic switches, you literally don't need any wiring to the switches at all.Most of the smart kit needs a neutral in the back box, with exceptions of course, but what you have impacts what you need.
Mr Pointy said:
Baldchap said:
Shelley also do a lot of stuff that would do this but whatever you use, you need to know what you already have to plan how to achieve what you want.
Most of the smart kit needs a neutral in the back box, with exceptions of course, but what you have impacts what you need.
That's one of the advantages of the Quinetic switches, you literally don't need any wiring to the switches at all.Most of the smart kit needs a neutral in the back box, with exceptions of course, but what you have impacts what you need.
Had a quick look online but it isn't clear to me how the receivers are powered and wired. Let's say like OP I have two separate lights and I want to replace two switches, what gets wired where?
Edited by Baldchap on Thursday 20th March 12:28
thebraketester said:
Thanks for the replies. Looks like two of those quinetic boxes and a switch should do the job. I presume you can pair two boxes to one switch?
I have LightwaveRF around the house but 2 relays are £140 which is silly
Wow! My Sonoff no neutral relays were about £12 each!I have LightwaveRF around the house but 2 relays are £140 which is silly
Baldchap said:
Interesting...
Had a quick look online but it isn't clear to me how the receivers are powered and wired. Let's say like OP I have two separate lights and I want to replace two switches, what gets wired where?
You simply need the lighting circuit Live & Neutral connected to the input of the receiver & the light wired to the output. The action of clicking the switch generates a tiny amount of power, enough to send on/off data to the receiver which then turns the light on. You can hang either 1100W or 2200W of one receiver so you can have multiple lights on one. One switch can trigger unlimited receivers & one receiver can respond to up to 10 switches.Had a quick look online but it isn't clear to me how the receivers are powered and wired. Let's say like OP I have two separate lights and I want to replace two switches, what gets wired where?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=quine...
The basic receiver is here & just needs L&N from the lighting circuit & gives out switched L & N:
https://www.quinetic.co.uk/products/rf-receiver/
They have expanded the range so now they have wi-fi receivers & apps, but the basic system uses purely passive switches.
Danm1les said:
To jump in with a similar question.
We have under cabinet lights and I would like to add some to our island. The island has power running to it for sockets. Could an electrician use a transmitter to tell the island lights to come on when the undercabinet lights come on?
Other than the options above, not without hard wiring.We have under cabinet lights and I would like to add some to our island. The island has power running to it for sockets. Could an electrician use a transmitter to tell the island lights to come on when the undercabinet lights come on?
If you use smart lights you can link the two with a simple automation via Google Home/Alexa/Home Assistant etc, or a scene within the smart lights own app.
How are they cabinet lights wired and controlled, and if they run from a normal light switch do you know if they have a neutral?
Edited by 98elise on Thursday 20th March 18:01
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