Bike lights on full beam

Bike lights on full beam

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AmazingGrace

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202 posts

18 months

Wednesday 19th March
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Hey everyone

I’ve noticed over the last few years of the number of bikes that seem to have their full beam on.
It’s either that I’m simply misreading it, the lights have generally got brighter, or perhaps there’s a trend to have them on full so bike riders can be seen?

I usually drive a normal height car, nothing too low.

av185

20,464 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th March
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Far too many self entitled fkwit bikers seem to think it is their god given right to blind other road users.

Normally find by reciprocating the favour but invariably with much more powerful headlamps gives the desired result.

black-k1

12,425 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th March
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I think, in part, it's something the Americans have exported. Riding on full beam is recommended in many states to "improve safety"!

Personally, I don't understand how dazzling other road users is seen as good for either the riders safety, or the other road users safety.

Biker9090

1,489 posts

51 months

Wednesday 19th March
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I think lights have gotten brighter but a lot of it is due to adv bike riders in particular festooning their bikes with a myriad of super powerful/ill adjusted/non homoglated lights.

There are a few GS' locally with at least two sets of extra lights in addition to their main LED headlights.

Yes, I've got spotlights on mine. However they are e marked, one each side mounted low and the same or lower beam than the dipped main beam.

Jazoli

9,325 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th March
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av185 said:
Far too many self entitled fkwit bikers seem to think it is their god given right to blind other road users.

Normally find by reciprocating the favour but invariably with much more powerful headlamps gives the desired result.
Agreed and I do exactly the same.

GriffoDP

246 posts

151 months

Wednesday 19th March
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AmazingGrace said:
Hey everyone

I’ve noticed over the last few years of the number of bikes that seem to have their full beam on.
It’s either that I’m simply misreading it, the lights have generally got brighter, or perhaps there’s a trend to have them on full so bike riders can be seen?

I usually drive a normal height car, nothing too low.
Not sure if it's increasing or decreasing. I mean, more bikes have LEDs now and they're going to be brighter and more annoying just like modern cars.

My friend who got me into bikes would insist on riding full beam on 'sunny days'. Fricking annoyed the hell out of me. Thankfully I never ride with him anymore. I do see it occasionally on the road from others.

HybridTheory

533 posts

46 months

Thursday 20th March
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Dunno about bikes but I'm regularly blinded on my bike going home by car users

kiethton

14,218 posts

194 months

Thursday 20th March
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I think some people are seeing a prevalence for higher-riding bikes, brighter (factory) headlights and people not realising that their night sight isn't what it was 20 years ago and are over-reacting.

For context, I'm regularly flashed on my NC750X, with what looks to me like a manufacturer standard headlight. I asked each time it goes in for service/MOT and have been told it's all fine and in spec, has never needed to be adjusted and it lights up the road well.

To the idiots that start flashing, two can play that game...

Pica-Pica

15,148 posts

98 months

Thursday 20th March
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kiethton said:
I think some people are seeing a prevalence for higher-riding bikes, brighter (factory) headlights and people not realising that their night sight isn't what it was 20 years ago and are over-reacting...
Nope. These bikes are on main beam. It must be that because it is only a minority.

kiethton

14,218 posts

194 months

Thursday 20th March
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Pica-Pica said:
kiethton said:
I think some people are seeing a prevalence for higher-riding bikes, brighter (factory) headlights and people not realising that their night sight isn't what it was 20 years ago and are over-reacting...
Nope. These bikes are on main beam. It must be that because it is only a minority.
Then why am I being flashed by oncoming cars (often driven by people of above average age) weekly, on a fully compliant bike with no modifications.

Regularly have the same in our X5 too, but appreciate the standard lights are quite bright and it rides higher - a flash back normally makes them stop however.

Latifisnc

1,315 posts

106 months

Friday 21st March
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I have occasionally done it on my bike as the headlight is an old twin bates style wired for one light dipped 2 lights main beam. It's absolutely woeful, and believe me, it is incapable of dazzling anyone (riding at night, although legal, is a bit of a no no for me on this thing). It's the only bike I've ever done it on though and probably doesn't make any difference to visibility.

Pica-Pica

15,148 posts

98 months

Friday 21st March
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kiethton said:
Pica-Pica said:
kiethton said:
I think some people are seeing a prevalence for higher-riding bikes, brighter (factory) headlights and people not realising that their night sight isn't what it was 20 years ago and are over-reacting...
Nope. These bikes are on main beam. It must be that because it is only a minority.
Then why am I being flashed by oncoming cars (often driven by people of above average age) weekly, on a fully compliant bike with no modifications.

Regularly have the same in our X5 too, but appreciate the standard lights are quite bright and it rides higher - a flash back normally makes them stop however.
When I bought my F30 new, with LED auto-dip, I was flashed frequently. I took it back and got it re-adjusted. I have never been flashed since. Get your X5 lights re-adjusted. There is a difference between bright lights and badly set lights.

Steve_H80

441 posts

36 months

Saturday 22nd March
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Most people never ride their bikes in the dark so have no idea where their lights are pointing. They might be set to a standard in the factory, but put someone on the bike, the suspension compresses at the back and bingo, it looks like full beam.

Hugo Stiglitz

39,291 posts

225 months

Saturday 22nd March
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It tends to be the more nervous biker who goes for the biggest bike with wker lights on.

Why telegraph how nervous you are?!

Simon_GH

704 posts

94 months

Saturday 22nd March
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I’m recommended to ride with full beam in traffic by an experienced motorcyclist. I left that advice with him.. I’m not sure dazzling other road users improves safety for anyone.

BobSaunders

3,099 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd March
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Drive a 15 year old shed back and forth to the station, because people are now looking for ultra high dazzle LED's lights and over winter i've been regularly getting people pulling out in front of me in the dark. Happy that bikes get seen.

HairyMaclary

3,751 posts

209 months

Monday 24th March
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kiethton said:
To the idiots that start flashing, two can play that game...
Hehe. I get flashed on my KTM all the time especially in the wet but will happily prove just how bright my actual main beam and spotlights are if needed.

In normal conditions I only use the spots in actual fog or on single track country lanes.

My NC750's led headlight is brilliant but it's a much lower bike so don't think it quite hits the same place as the KTM which is much taller.

OutInTheShed

11,181 posts

40 months

Monday 24th March
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When vehicles behind don't dip, or have wky dazzling lights, I just drive slower and let slow vehicles out of side roads.

Of course if I was really dazzled, I might imagine there's something in front of me and kick the brakes.

Hugo Stiglitz

39,291 posts

225 months

Monday 24th March
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But that reinforces a nervous riders mindset, more lights = people doing this must see them.

I've never met a confident rider with side lights. Same with fog lights on cars = a need to be seen as everyone is crazy.

Biker9090

1,489 posts

51 months

Monday 24th March
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
But that reinforces a nervous riders mindset, more lights = people doing this must see them.

I've never met a confident rider with side lights. Same with fog lights on cars = a need to be seen as everyone is crazy.
I got pulled out on more times in two weeks on my yellow strom than in 5 years on my blacked out CBF500. Can't understand why it was happening but as soon as I put on oxford aux lights (because of the aforementioned near miss') it all stopped.