Questions to ask when buying "old" Model Y remotely
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Thinking of buying Mrs Foolish a 2nd hand Model Y*. So I don't feel too bad about this it would have to be a Model Y Performance - or at a push the Long Range with the accelleration upgrade**. Sweet spot seems to be about 15-25k miles and paying about 35k, give or take, from a dealer.
None are particularly close so it would be likely a remote buy (even if final decision made in person) if it goes ahead. What I'm wondering is if you can get stuff like e.g. battery state through the touchscreen? What other questions are worth asking?
*Well it's mostly for Mrs Foolish but it would be our main Little Foolish car - it seems practical for kids.
**Can we buy any long range and apply the accelleration upgrade ourselves if necessary? If that were the case then things would be a lot easier
None are particularly close so it would be likely a remote buy (even if final decision made in person) if it goes ahead. What I'm wondering is if you can get stuff like e.g. battery state through the touchscreen? What other questions are worth asking?
*Well it's mostly for Mrs Foolish but it would be our main Little Foolish car - it seems practical for kids.
**Can we buy any long range and apply the accelleration upgrade ourselves if necessary? If that were the case then things would be a lot easier
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Tuesday 18th March 22:12
wyson said:
If it veers to the right?
If the glass roof makes a lot of noise when it heils?
If its well built and might last 1000 years?
Not gonna lie, this was very good If the glass roof makes a lot of noise when it heils?
If its well built and might last 1000 years?
(TBH my view is that while in the USA they're having a good ole fashioned culture war, in the UK we're all gonna be able to separate drivers from the cars from the company from the current minority shareholder who stole the company so I'm not especially bothered about it other than what it does to resale values a few years down the line. I don't think very much tbh.)
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Wednesday 19th March 00:41
Battery won’t be an issue. They pretty much either fail and are under warranty or just have a touch of early degradation and then plateau. The latest software release also gives the ability to see health although few cars have that yet, and the hidden service mode also has an option but I doubt a dealer will run that for you as it takes 24 hours pluggedi to a charger.
Acceleration boost can be added to LR AWD, it gets you close but isn’t a P. It also doesn’t have the wheels, on the flip side the P wheels show up any curb damage, and they seem easier to curb than most, maybe it’s the lack of proper surround cameras
It’s worth getting an insurance quotes before you commit, some don’t have a problem, others do, only you know all your details. And there is a growing backlash, whether you agree or care doesn’t matter if that starts being reflected in insurance prices and depreciation, which is already high. Depreciation on a 2022 LR car was £8k last year, and £12k on a P, and isn’t showing much sign of slowing down. Gerneral warranty will drop off a 2022 next year which hurts and Tesla have struggled to find 3rd party warranty providers to extend the factory warranty, and Tesla’s like many EVs also depreciate as the end of battery warranty starts to get close.
The quality and ride debate often comes down to what you’re used to, if you’re used to anything that might be considered even remotely premium, you might be disappointed, just read tge reviews of the juniper model and all the improvements that have been made to a car that allegedly didn’t need improvement.
Acceleration boost can be added to LR AWD, it gets you close but isn’t a P. It also doesn’t have the wheels, on the flip side the P wheels show up any curb damage, and they seem easier to curb than most, maybe it’s the lack of proper surround cameras
It’s worth getting an insurance quotes before you commit, some don’t have a problem, others do, only you know all your details. And there is a growing backlash, whether you agree or care doesn’t matter if that starts being reflected in insurance prices and depreciation, which is already high. Depreciation on a 2022 LR car was £8k last year, and £12k on a P, and isn’t showing much sign of slowing down. Gerneral warranty will drop off a 2022 next year which hurts and Tesla have struggled to find 3rd party warranty providers to extend the factory warranty, and Tesla’s like many EVs also depreciate as the end of battery warranty starts to get close.
The quality and ride debate often comes down to what you’re used to, if you’re used to anything that might be considered even remotely premium, you might be disappointed, just read tge reviews of the juniper model and all the improvements that have been made to a car that allegedly didn’t need improvement.
Well, I've bought one (2022 Performance). Unseen and just working off description/report. Will report how big a mistake (or not) when I get it... Happily distance selling regs apply so I can reject it for any reason, not just CRA ones.
It seemed reasonably keenly priced for a dealer one - 9k miles, first registered Nov 2022. 35.5k. They're currently reconditioning the alloys which supports the above comment!
(I'm not a fan of big wheels on cars full stop but you can't fight fashion sadly).
(Insurance is pricey but not ridiculous - £900ish for fully comp with Mrs Foolish. Would be £600 in my name).
It seemed reasonably keenly priced for a dealer one - 9k miles, first registered Nov 2022. 35.5k. They're currently reconditioning the alloys which supports the above comment!
(I'm not a fan of big wheels on cars full stop but you can't fight fashion sadly).
(Insurance is pricey but not ridiculous - £900ish for fully comp with Mrs Foolish. Would be £600 in my name).
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Wednesday 26th March 17:02
Well, I picked it up today. Seems decent to me for the price, nothing obviously damaged. The straight line performance is exceptional for a 2 tonne blob imo - I honestly think it's better for overtaking in real world conditions (so considering not just the theoretical accelleration but the accessibililty of it) than 99% of cars on the road, as good as a mid range sports bike. Certainly gave some people a shock driving it back up'north...
OTOH I am kinda concerned about Mrs Foolish driving it. I should have given this more thought. Oh well.
Also I got the insurance down to under £700 through a multicar discount. Which was nice.
OTOH I am kinda concerned about Mrs Foolish driving it. I should have given this more thought. Oh well.
Also I got the insurance down to under £700 through a multicar discount. Which was nice.
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Tuesday 1st April 21:01
Somewhatfoolish said:
Well, I picked it up today. Seems decent to me for the price, nothing obviously damaged. The straight line performance is exceptional for a 2 tonne blob imo - I honestly think it's better for overtaking in real world conditions (so considering not just the theoretical accelleration but the accessibililty of it) than 99% of cars on the road, as good as a mid range sports bike. Certainly gave some people a shock driving it back up'north...
OTOH I am kinda concerned about Mrs Foolish driving it. I should have given this more thought. Oh well.
Also I got the insurance down to under £700 through a multicar discount. Which was nice.
Congrats - we'll be interested to hear how you both get on with it over some time...OTOH I am kinda concerned about Mrs Foolish driving it. I should have given this more thought. Oh well.
Also I got the insurance down to under £700 through a multicar discount. Which was nice.
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Tuesday 1st April 21:01
And yes, the overtaking/mid-range punch is definitely one of the best things about EVs... No transmissions or peaky turbo powerbands to worry about - they just go!
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