997 C2S

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s94wht

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71 months

Tuesday 18th March
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After wanting one for a couple of years, but not being sure if it was right, practical enough, affordable, all those things, I decided to take the plunge and purchased a 997 Carrera S.



It's a 2006, 51k on the clock, manual, with Sports Exhaust, Sports Chrono, BOSE, heated seats and sunroof, which was just the combination I wanted. It's finished in Arctic Silver with black interior and the Sport Design wheels. Had a bore check done and it came back completely clear. Very clean history with a lot of work done and the bodywork is in exceptional condition with just a couple of tiny stone chips.

I'm about a month into ownership at this point. Coming from a Golf GTI, the Porsche is a huge step up in driving enjoyment. The sound alone is enough to make me forget (mostly) about the poor economy!

There are a few minor but far from show-shopping jobs that need doing to it

  • new window regulator (purchased but not fitted) - the driver's window isn't dropping properly
  • new door lock assembly - even if the window was dropping properly, it wouldn't stay open with the door
  • handbrake adjustment
  • new horn (sounds like a clown car currently)
  • new window switch on driver's side (I think)
  • sunroof behaves a little oddly sometimes so I need to investigate this
Mechanically though, the car is spot on. It's recently had new coolant pipes, new tandem pump, new battery and starter motor, new engine mounts, the list goes on, all in the last 3 years.

I've fitted a new Android Auto head unit, with a digital radio dongle and reversing camera still to wire up, and I still need to move my private plate over.



Looking forward to what is hopefully a good few years of ownership. However, if I only keep it a year, then so be it. It was an itch that needed scratching!

Oh, and it fits my golf clubs in, which is class!



Edited by s94wht on Thursday 20th March 13:24


Edited by s94wht on Friday 21st March 17:17

CantDecide

242 posts

214 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Congratulations on a lovely purchase. Sounds like lots of the common jobs have been completed over the past few years which should serve you well over the coming months/years. The horn sounds like a failure of one of them as they are in pairs, this gives the comical sound!

s94wht

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2,045 posts

71 months

Tuesday 18th March
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CantDecide said:
Congratulations on a lovely purchase. Sounds like lots of the common jobs have been completed over the past few years which should serve you well over the coming months/years. The horn sounds like a failure of one of them as they are in pairs, this gives the comical sound!
That was my thought; I could have maybe waited for a rebuilt engine to come up at the same time, but they way I weighed it up, the rebuild is something expensive that could need doing, the other jobs are less expensive but will need doing.

shalmaneser

6,129 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Are you sure the window drop issue isn't the door handle microswitch?

Car is lovely, the 997 shape is a real looker.

s94wht

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2,045 posts

71 months

Wednesday 19th March
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shalmaneser said:
Are you sure the window drop issue isn't the door handle microswitch?

Car is lovely, the 997 shape is a real looker.
I can hear it trying to drop when the handle is pulled, it just doesn't go anywhere. It also tries to go back up when the door is open, so I believe that is the door lock assembly. With the window switch as well, this door certainly has its gremlins

NDA

22,945 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th March
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The low tone horn on my 991.1 C4S has failed too - I think it's a common issue.

Have fun in the car, a lovely thing. smile

s94wht

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71 months

Wednesday 19th March
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I just realised I managed to omit the issue that bothers me the most - warm start stubbornness. Take it out for a spirited drive and turn the car off, then try and start it again and it's a bit stubborn, it doesn't crank properly. It gets there eventually but I don't want to wear anything out.

I've been told that it can be corrosion on the pin where the battery connects to the power distributor or something like that. Warmth + corrosion = higher resistance = less power to the car. I believe that's the logic. Looks a bit of a pain to fix but once I get it sorted I think it'll be a car that I can just enjoy

shalmaneser

6,129 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th March
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s94wht said:
shalmaneser said:
Are you sure the window drop issue isn't the door handle microswitch?

Car is lovely, the 997 shape is a real looker.
I can hear it trying to drop when the handle is pulled, it just doesn't go anywhere. It also tries to go back up when the door is open, so I believe that is the door lock assembly. With the window switch as well, this door certainly has its gremlins
If it's trying to drop it sounds like the microswitch is OK and the regulator is indeed at fault.

s94wht said:
I just realised I managed to omit the issue that bothers me the most - warm start stubbornness. Take it out for a spirited drive and turn the car off, then try and start it again and it's a bit stubborn, it doesn't crank properly. It gets there eventually but I don't want to wear anything out.

I've been told that it can be corrosion on the pin where the battery connects to the power distributor or something like that. Warmth + corrosion = higher resistance = less power to the car. I believe that's the logic. Looks a bit of a pain to fix but once I get it sorted I think it'll be a car that I can just enjoy
This is almost certainly the 'Y cable' which is a cable that runs from the alternator to the starter to the battery post in the engine bay. It's a common failure that these corrode and as you say heat from running the engine increases the resistance leading to embarrassment on the petrol forecourt.

It's not a bad DIY if you want to attempt it.

s94wht

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2,045 posts

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Wednesday 19th March
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shalmaneser said:
This is almost certainly the 'Y cable' which is a cable that runs from the alternator to the starter to the battery post in the engine bay. It's a common failure that these corrode and as you say heat from running the engine increases the resistance leading to embarrassment on the petrol forecourt.

It's not a bad DIY if you want to attempt it.
The Y-cable was replaced not all that long ago... frown

Crudeoink

1,002 posts

71 months

Wednesday 19th March
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s94wht said:
There are a few minor but far from show-shopping jobs that need doing to it

  • new window regulator (purchased but not fitted) - the driver's window isn't dropping properly
  • new door lock assembly - even if the window was dropping properly, it wouldn't stay open with the door
The window regulator isnt a bad job. I did mine in around 90 minutes ,that said I could probably do it in an hour now I know how the door is put together. I'd do it sooner rather than later. Mine let go when we had the real cold snap in January. I only used the car once and the wires were already wrapped around the motor spindle. No damage was done but I think it would have damaged to motor spindle if I kept using the car. The motors are a lot more expensive to replace vs the regulators!

s94wht

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Wednesday 19th March
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Crudeoink said:
The window regulator isnt a bad job. I did mine in around 90 minutes ,that said I could probably do it in an hour now I know how the door is put together. I'd do it sooner rather than later. Mine let go when we had the real cold snap in January. I only used the car once and the wires were already wrapped around the motor spindle. No damage was done but I think it would have damaged to motor spindle if I kept using the car. The motors are a lot more expensive to replace vs the regulators!
Probably going to try and give it a go in the next week or two thumbup

shalmaneser

6,129 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th March
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s94wht said:
shalmaneser said:
This is almost certainly the 'Y cable' which is a cable that runs from the alternator to the starter to the battery post in the engine bay. It's a common failure that these corrode and as you say heat from running the engine increases the resistance leading to embarrassment on the petrol forecourt.

It's not a bad DIY if you want to attempt it.
The Y-cable was replaced not all that long ago... frown
How frustrating! Check for voltage drop when cranking which should confirm there is high resistance somewhere...

s94wht

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2,045 posts

71 months

Thursday 20th March
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shalmaneser said:
How frustrating! Check for voltage drop when cranking which should confirm there is high resistance somewhere...
Do you have a ballpark on what I should be looking for?

White-Noise

5,009 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th March
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Very nice. I've a real soft spot for these especially with the gen 1 engines fizz. It feels great. I drive a gti but I never got brave enough for the 997.

RS Grant

1,682 posts

245 months

Friday 21st March
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Looks great, nice spec too. cool

I also took the plunge into 911 ownership recently after waiting a long time to do so and even if I encounter some niggles here and there, I won't regret it at all.. it's really living up to my expectations.

s94wht

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2,045 posts

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Friday 21st March
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White-Noise said:
Very nice. I've a real soft spot for these especially with the gen 1 engines fizz. It feels great. I drive a gti but I never got brave enough for the 997.
Thank you very much. The GTI was (is) a fantastic car and I had no need to change, just want. If the 911 doesn't work out I might well go back to a GTI, they're just so good

s94wht

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Friday 21st March
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RS Grant said:
Looks great, nice spec too. cool

I also took the plunge into 911 ownership recently after waiting a long time to do so and even if I encounter some niggles here and there, I won't regret it at all.. it's really living up to my expectations.
That's what I thought. Life's too short

s94wht

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Saturday 29th March
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Bit of a disaster with the car today. Went to replace the window regulator/door lock assembly, got everything out of the door to the point of removing the metal "skin", and found that all the screws are RIDICULOUSLY tight. One of them stripped straight away. Starting running out of light so I put everything back together.

Unfortunately, part of the old regulator came apart when taking the glass out. I therefore didn't feel comfortable plugging the motor back in, because it would be trying to wind the window all the time when opening and closing the door. Trouble is, with some of it not connected in there, I now have TWO non-functioning windows! Also, a message on the dash "System fault, visit workshop," and the drivers door doesn't lock.

To top it off, the door panel isn't clipped on properly. I don't think it was in the first place, it came off very easily and I couldn't figure out how to clip it on. I suspect someone has been in there before. Maybe that's why all the bolts are too tight?

Why can't anything ever be simple?!