W214 E450 petrol

[RosyG550]

Just wondering if anyone knows or has heard anything about whether the E450 petrol might ever be available in the UK.

I know the diesel gets rave reviews and I don't doubt it's impressive but I just can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a diesel however brilliant it is and however wrong I may be.

The E53 is appealing but I really don't want the hard ride and the tyre roar, and I prefer the classic looks (the classic grille etc) of the 'Exclusive' spec which you can also have with the smaller wheels which I'm sure are better for the ride quality.

Thanks in advance to anyone who might have any information.

[BEARDYB0Y]

To be upfront, it may, it may not... even the dealers are kept out of the loop on these things. Generally a bulletin gets sent out as the new model/option gets released.

That big 3L diesel is genuinely great though! Even sounds decent for a diesel. The 3L petrol on the other hand does have a slight power dip in the midrange. Its good, but in many ways the diesel suits its relaxed, torque-y nature better.

Ive not driven the 53 yet but if its anything like the CLE53 it will likely be the best of both worlds. That CLE53 is likely the best car Merc has released for a good few years

[RosyG550]

BEARDYB0Y said:

To be upfront, it may, it may not... even the dealers are kept out of the loop on these things. Generally a bulletin gets sent out as the new model/option gets released.

That big 3L diesel is genuinely great though! Even sounds decent for a diesel. The 3L petrol on the other hand does have a slight power dip in the midrange. Its good, but in many ways the diesel suits its relaxed, torque-y nature better.

Ive not driven the 53 yet but if its anything like the CLE53 it will likely be the best of both worlds. That CLE53 is likely the best car Merc has released for a good few years

Thanks for the info, sounds like it's not totally ruled out which is positive! If I can I'll try and drive the 450 D back to back with the E53, see if I could live with the E53 on a daily basis.

[Dewi 2]

RosyG550 said:

Just wondering if anyone knows or has heard anything about whether the E450 petrol might ever be available in the UK.

I know the diesel gets rave reviews and I don't doubt it's impressive but I just can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a diesel however brilliant it is and however wrong I may be.

The E53 is appealing but I really don't want the hard ride and the tyre roar, and I prefer the classic looks (the classic grille etc) of the 'Exclusive' spec which you can also have with the smaller wheels which I'm sure are better for the ride quality.

Thanks in advance to anyone who might have any information.

I too wanted one of those.
Went to an MB dealer and was told, "You cannot have the 3 litre inline 6 petrol in the UK, unless buying an AMG".
Neither could I have the interior colour which I had chosen. Soon decided not to buy a new W214 for top money, if I could not have the car I wanted.

An AMG was of no interest, because I already have a wonderful sports car with firm suspension and loud exhaust. An E Class for me is all about comfort.

I then began to realise that the W214 is not a new model at all. It is a W213 facelift with a few minor changes.
In fact for me, the W213 facelift suits me better, because I don't want the big screen, or sometimes temperamental pop out door handles. The 2021 onwards W213 does have MBUX.

I found a two year old E200 facelift petrol with 4,000 miles at half the price of a new W214.
There are very few petrol versions available.

The parts to fit an Exclusive front to a UK W213 are available, so a specialist can do the change, because that model was produced for other markets (not UK).

The three pointed star bonnet badge is an easy fit too.

Edited by Dewi 2 on Monday 24th March 18:55

[Scrump]

Even if does become available in the Uk, experience with past generations is that the classic grille is unlikely to be available.
As already said, this can be retrofitted on earlier generations.

[Dewi 2]

Scrump said:

Even if does become available in the Uk, experience with past generations is that the classic grille is unlikely to be available.
As already said, this can be retrofitted on earlier generations.

Presumably the front could also be retrofitted (main dealers won't do it) on the current model.

I saw an Exclusive edition W214 (obviously not the E450 petrol model) in the showroom of my local dealer last year, priced at about £70,000. Quite satisfying, having just bought a hardly used very similar car, for half that price from a different main dealer.
Five months later, that Exclusive edition car was still in the same position in the showroom, but this time with the bonnet up and awaiting a new battery.
At my next visit, the car had gone.

[BEARDYB0Y]

Dewi 2 said:

Five months later, that Exclusive edition car was still in the same position in the showroom, but this time with the bonnet up and awaiting a new battery.
At my next visit, the car had gone.

Due to Merc UKs new agency model, the cars you have in a showroom are dictated to you by the brand. They even tell you where in the showroom to have them placed.

Cars that sit around are not uncommon as its up to Merc to move them on. The dealer cant sell them, they are not for sale as such. (They may be avalible on the online showroom and anyone in the country can buy it, but only after merc have released it for sale). Plus, as there are no discounts going, why would someone buy the one in the showroom and not a brand new one fresh off a boat.

Modern car batteries in dealerships die suprisingly quicky due to people constantly ipening doors and all the ECUs powering up, ambient lighting turning on etc etc. Most cars need charged once a week minimum.

That constant drain/power cycle kills batteries and causes electrical issues galore!

Personally... and each to their own... but i never found the E200 to be the gratest engine choice. Personally Id rather have an E220d... (and im not a diesel fan)

[Dewi 2]

BEARDYB0Y said:

Due to Merc UKs new agency model, the cars you have in a showroom are dictated to you by the brand. They even tell you where in the showroom to have them placed.

Cars that sit around are not uncommon as its up to Merc to move them on. The dealer cant sell them, they are not for sale as such. (They may be avalible on the online showroom and anyone in the country can buy it, but only after merc have released it for sale). Plus, as there are no discounts going, why would someone buy the one in the showroom and not a brand new one fresh off a boat.

Modern car batteries in dealerships die suprisingly quicky due to people constantly ipening doors and all the ECUs powering up, ambient lighting turning on etc etc. Most cars need charged once a week minimum.

That constant drain/power cycle kills batteries and causes electrical issues galore!

Personally... and each to their own... but i never found the E200 to be the gratest engine choice. Personally Id rather have an E220d... (and im not a diesel fan)

What a palaver. I wonder what the dealers think about the 'agency model? I suppose their only choice was either accept, or leave Mercedes-Benz. It might explain why the salesman showed so little interest when I enquired about buying a new car.

As an aside, it was very noticeable on my last visit to the dealer, that there was only one BEV on display in the showroom. Perhaps
M-B have responded to weak demand by the unsubsidised private buyers.

Yes, the 2 litre petrol was certainly not my first choice, but they wouldn't allow a new factory order of a 3 litre in-line six (which are available in many other countries). I have been used to a completely reliable 3.2 V6 petrol for 20 years.
I notice that the 2 litre engine does make mechanical noise, although it is not audible when on the move. My only other 4 cylinder non-classic car is a Vauxhall Cavalier. That engine at idle speed is quieter than the E200.
What is it that we can hear with the Merc engine? Is it something to do with injectors? It must be some component that neither the Vauxhall, nor the CLK engine have.

[TarquinMX5]

The noise is most likely from the direct injection (so, yes, injectors), which seems to be common across most, or all, direct injection systems.

[AC43]

TarquinMX5 said:

The noise is most likely from the direct injection (so, yes, injectors), which seems to be common across most, or all, direct injection systems.

Yeah, a lot of modern DI petrols are surprisingly clattery at idle. Not to diesel levels, of course, but odd-sounding when you're not accustomed to it.