Facelift Taycan Range

[ntiz]

Hi all.

I find my self looking at getting back into an EV after having very early Tesla's and not getting on with them swearing I would never go EV again. However a new set of circumstances means I'm looking at it again.

My father has a pre face lift Taycan Turbo which he loves as a thing to drive but the range really isn't great, doesn't seem to have moved the game on much from our early Tesla's. The facelift cars in theory should go about 100 miles further (I'm suspicious).

Does anyone have one and been doing long journeys? How are you getting on with it?

Specifically the motorway range as I consider it pretty normal to rack 500+ miles a day for work. So if it struggles to do 200 travelled miles at 80mph its going to get on my nerves fast. I do stuff like visiting my warehouse in Rotterdam, suppliers in East Germany, distributors in France and Spain. I get about a fair bit.

Thinking the GTS Sport Turismo could be a good buy through my company as I have decided to focus on buying my dream cars instead of compromised daily that don't fully do what I want.

[Discombobulate]

ntiz said:

Hi all.

I find my self looking at getting back into an EV after having very early Tesla's and not getting on with them swearing I would never go EV again. However a new set of circumstances means I'm looking at it again.

My father has a pre face lift Taycan Turbo which he loves as a thing to drive but the range really isn't great, doesn't seem to have moved the game on much from our early Tesla's. The facelift cars in theory should go about 100 miles further (I'm suspicious).

Does anyone have one and been doing long journeys? How are you getting on with it?

Specifically the motorway range as I consider it pretty normal to rack 500+ miles a day for work. So if it struggles to do 200 travelled miles at 80mph its going to get on my nerves fast. I do stuff like visiting my warehouse in Rotterdam, suppliers in East Germany, distributors in France and Spain. I get about a fair bit.

Thinking the GTS Sport Turismo could be a good buy through my company as I have decided to focus on buying my dream cars instead of compromised daily that don't fully do what I want.

If you spec 20 inch wheels you will fare better and should be able to do 250 miles on the motorway in good conditions.
PS edited to add: the GTS is nice but the sweet spot is the 4S in my opinion. Plenty quick enough.

[Murph7355]

I get 200 miles out of my mk1 GTS on 21s for 75% of the year. 170-180 miles for the other 25%....and when in Germany that is always at 80+ Much faster and it falls away quickly.

The new one will exceed that...it has a 12% bigger battery for a start, and narrower wheels and tyres. I reckon 230-250 should be easy (only aware of 1x mk1.2 GTS owner on the Taycan Forum thus far, but may be worth asking there.

[rusgb]

I have the new model Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo.
The car is amazing. I've never desired a porsche but run my own company and a ev makes sense. I also have a Cali T in the garage...
Porsche is averaging 2.2m/kwh so 227m average. That is through winter, short runs, blasting back roads and no attempt to manage range. Best (according to my app) is over 300 miles range on motorways in warmer weather.
I have a charger at home. Charging on the move is a royal pain in the arse however hard we try to dress it up. We have a hybrid xc90 which is perfect for the long trips. 99% of the time on cheap electric but petrol goes in for runs. I'd take the Volvo on anything over 200 miles so I don't even have to think.
As a side note, the Taycan is outstanding. I'm way more impressed with it than I expected to be.

[gbpusd]

I get way over 300 miles of range in my J2 Taycan 4S CT.

[gbpusd]

I have a facelift 4S CT and can easily get 350 miles on a full charge.

[gbpusd]

If i'm driving through Europe I generally use the Ionity chargers, you can realistically go from 10% to 80% in under 20 mins

[nickpan]

How do you identify a face lift car?

[Abc321]

nickpan said:

How do you identify a face lift car?

More pointed headlights towards the number plate than is the easiest marker I look for when trying to tell the difference.

New one also has those wingblades (if thats what they're called) like the 992.2 GT3.

[nickpan]

Abc321 said:

More pointed headlights towards the number plate than is the easiest marker I look for when trying to tell the difference.

New one also has those wingblades (if thats what they're called) like the 992.2 GT3.

Cheers pal

[uktrailmonster]

I’m seriously considering a facelift CT 4S. I see there are a few owners over here. How is the reliability on these? Any concerns, issues I need to be aware of? I would be buying from my local Porsche main dealer. I know earlier Taycans could be trouble, but hoping the facelift cars are sorted.

[HoHoHo]

uktrailmonster said:

I’m seriously considering a facelift CT 4S. I see there are a few owners over here. How is the reliability on these? Any concerns, issues I need to be aware of? I would be buying from my local Porsche main dealer. I know earlier Taycans could be trouble, but hoping the facelift cars are sorted.

What makes you think gen 1 Taycan can be trouble?

I’ve had two gen 1 cars, a 4S CT and now a GTS ST both from new. 40,000 miles in total and no more issues than any other new car and my experience has been very, very good.

[Discombobulate]

HoHoHo said:

What makes you think gen 1 Taycan can be trouble?

I’ve had two gen 1 cars, a 4S CT and now a GTS ST both from new. 40,000 miles in total and no more issues than any other new car and my experience has been very, very good.

Probably recurrent heater issues, and recent battery recall. Both should now be sorted.

[uktrailmonster]

Discombobulate said:

HoHoHo said:

What makes you think gen 1 Taycan can be trouble?

I’ve had two gen 1 cars, a 4S CT and now a GTS ST both from new. 40,000 miles in total and no more issues than any other new car and my experience has been very, very good.

Probably recurrent heater issues, and recent battery recall. Both should now be sorted.

Yes, these things. My friend’s Gen 1 Taycan is also having a DC charging speed issue - currently at the dealership. So I was wondering how reliable they are in general.

[HoHoHo]

uktrailmonster said:

Discombobulate said:

HoHoHo said:

What makes you think gen 1 Taycan can be trouble?

I’ve had two gen 1 cars, a 4S CT and now a GTS ST both from new. 40,000 miles in total and no more issues than any other new car and my experience has been very, very good.

Probably recurrent heater issues, and recent battery recall. Both should now be sorted.

Yes, these things. My friend’s Gen 1 Taycan is also having a DC charging speed issue - currently at the dealership. So I was wondering how reliable they are in general.

I’d say very reliable.

I have had one heater issue but aside from that it’s been pretty smooth sailing.

Stones in the front inner wheel arch fan can cause a problem (I don’t think gen 2 cars have resolved that?), I haven’t had a battery recall so I can’t comment on that.

If you have a warranty the gen 1 cars are still a great car with little to worry about and IMO the bargain of the year if you want what is probably the best EV you can buy at very low prices compared to list.

[uktrailmonster]

HoHoHo said:

I’d say very reliable.

I have had one heater issue but aside from that it’s been pretty smooth sailing.

Stones in the front inner wheel arch fan can cause a problem (I don’t think gen 2 cars have resolved that?), I haven’t had a battery recall so I can’t comment on that.

If you have a warranty the gen 1 cars are still a great car with little to worry about and IMO the bargain of the year if you want what is probably the best EV you can buy at very low prices compared to list.

That’s encouraging thanks. I’m looking at the latest version for extended range and there are some good deals on low mileage dealer management cars. I’d be in it for at least 5 years and 75k miles so not looking at older cars.

[HoHoHo]

uktrailmonster said:

HoHoHo said:

I’d say very reliable.

I have had one heater issue but aside from that it’s been pretty smooth sailing.

Stones in the front inner wheel arch fan can cause a problem (I don’t think gen 2 cars have resolved that?), I haven’t had a battery recall so I can’t comment on that.

If you have a warranty the gen 1 cars are still a great car with little to worry about and IMO the bargain of the year if you want what is probably the best EV you can buy at very low prices compared to list.

That’s encouraging thanks. I’m looking at the latest version for extended range and there are some good deals on low mileage dealer management cars. I’d be in it for at least 5 years and 75k miles so not looking at older cars.

I think all CT and ST have the larger battery and without doubt the gen 2 cars will get better mileage from a charge.

I’m getting about 230 currently albeit it can go down to 165 on a very cold day!

I’m sure the gen 2 are better in some respects but when you can get an 18 month old 4S CT for £55k that had a list of £125 odd why spend silly money just to get the latest spec?

I would just say my car is great, I’ve done a lot of miles ans been all over Europe and enjoyed every mile. I won’t buy another once this comes to the end of its lease simply because life is changing for me and I won’t benefit from the BIK so I’m back to a large petrol or diesel car. I’ll miss that instant shove of the electric engine but I only had a Taycan because the government made it a no brainer!

[uktrailmonster]

HoHoHo said:

I think all CT and ST have the larger battery and without doubt the gen 2 cars will get better mileage from a charge.

I’m getting about 230 currently albeit it can go down to 165 on a very cold day!

I’m sure the gen 2 are better in some respects but when you can get an 18 month old 4S CT for £55k that had a list of £125 odd why spend silly money just to get the latest spec?

I would just say my car is great, I’ve done a lot of miles ans been all over Europe and enjoyed every mile. I won’t buy another once this comes to the end of its lease simply because life is changing for me and I won’t benefit from the BIK so I’m back to a large petrol or diesel car. I’ll miss that instant shove of the electric engine but I only had a Taycan because the government made it a no brainer!

Older Taycans are great value, but I’m looking at running this car for at least 5 years and 75k miles, so I’m happy to get a nearly new one with the extra range. It would be more in line with what I’m used to with my Tesla range. Cheapest facelift CT 4S are now £75k and some very low mileage ones in the £80-85k range.

[HoHoHo]

uktrailmonster said:

HoHoHo said:

I’d say very reliable.

I have had one heater issue but aside from that it’s been pretty smooth sailing.

Stones in the front inner wheel arch fan can cause a problem (I don’t think gen 2 cars have resolved that?), I haven’t had a battery recall so I can’t comment on that.

If you have a warranty the gen 1 cars are still a great car with little to worry about and IMO the bargain of the year if you want what is probably the best EV you can buy at very low prices compared to list.

That’s encouraging thanks. I’m looking at the latest version for extended range and there are some good deals on low mileage dealer management cars. I’d be in it for at least 5 years and 75k miles so not looking at older cars.

I think all CT and ST have the larger battery and without doubt the gen 2 cars will get better mileage from a charge.

I’m getting about 230 currently albeit it can go down to 165 on a very cold day!

I’m sure the gen 2 are better in some respects but when you can get an 18 month old 4S CT for £55k that had a list of £125 odd why spend silly money just to get the latest spec?

I would just say my car is great, I’ve done a lot of miles ans been all over Europe and enjoyed every mile. I won’t buy another once this comes to the end of its lease simply because life is changing for me and I won’t benefit from the BIK so I’m back to a large petrol or diesel car. I’ll miss that instant shove of the electric engine but I only had a Taycan because the government made it a no brainer!