Kumho ECSTA Sport S PS72
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AmoCS

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1,174 posts

237 months

Monday 10th March
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Hello, anyone tried these yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMOf_AQfPjM


pidsy

8,510 posts

175 months

Monday 10th March
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I’ve got ECSTA 2’s on my Abarth - no complaints at all in any condition. I’d certainly look at these when it comes to replacing the tyres on the SLK

cliffords

2,987 posts

41 months

Monday 10th March
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I have them on two of my cars all round.
I just yesterday ordered two more for the rear of another car I have .
My daughter has them all round on her car .

I really am a convert I think they are excellent wet or dry .They are soft hence they work well.

The price is definitely creeping up they were not far short of Dunlop yesterday when I searched. However I chose them as preference.

Roboticarm

1,620 posts

79 months

Monday 17th March
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I have them on my focus ST, they replaced budgets which where in when I got it, night and day difference.
Would recommend, I'd say 95% of the performance of a Michelin ps5 for 50% of the price

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Wednesday 18th June
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About to stick a full set of these on my 5.0 XKR to replace Continental Contact Sport 7s so it'll be interesting to directly compare them to what is probably the best UUHP tyre on the market.

They were so cheap I pretty much had to give them a try, I've never had a bad experience with Kumho tyres and I put a set of PS71 on the back of my S600 years ago to sell it and was very impressed, found them no worse in any way I could notice than the Contact Sport 5P that they replaced.

cliffords

2,987 posts

41 months

Wednesday 18th June
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GeniusOfLove said:
About to stick a full set of these on my 5.0 XKR to replace Continental Contact Sport 7s so it'll be interesting to directly compare them to what is probably the best UUHP tyre on the market.

They were so cheap I pretty much had to give them a try, I've never had a bad experience with Kumho tyres and I put a set of PS71 on the back of my S600 years ago to sell it and was very impressed, found them no worse in any way I could notice than the Contact Sport 5P that they replaced.
I have a full set on my 4.2 XK. They are fantastic. I was out today thinking what a great ride and sure handling.

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Wednesday 18th June
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cliffords said:
GeniusOfLove said:
About to stick a full set of these on my 5.0 XKR to replace Continental Contact Sport 7s so it'll be interesting to directly compare them to what is probably the best UUHP tyre on the market.

They were so cheap I pretty much had to give them a try, I've never had a bad experience with Kumho tyres and I put a set of PS71 on the back of my S600 years ago to sell it and was very impressed, found them no worse in any way I could notice than the Contact Sport 5P that they replaced.
I have a full set on my 4.2 XK. They are fantastic. I was out today thinking what a great ride and sure handling.
Have you got to try them in the rain yet?

cliffords

2,987 posts

41 months

Wednesday 18th June
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GeniusOfLove said:
cliffords said:
GeniusOfLove said:
About to stick a full set of these on my 5.0 XKR to replace Continental Contact Sport 7s so it'll be interesting to directly compare them to what is probably the best UUHP tyre on the market.

They were so cheap I pretty much had to give them a try, I've never had a bad experience with Kumho tyres and I put a set of PS71 on the back of my S600 years ago to sell it and was very impressed, found them no worse in any way I could notice than the Contact Sport 5P that they replaced.
I have a full set on my 4.2 XK. They are fantastic. I was out today thinking what a great ride and sure handling.
Have you got to try them in the rain yet?
Yes I was caught in an absolute downpour last month . The road was overcome with water and I went very gently. Then 100 miles home on wet roads in moderate rain and they were fine .

Edited to add ,they have the highest wet tyre rating.

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Monday 23rd June
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Initial impressions are that they're quieter at the front than the J marked Dunlops, which were getting on a bit. Ride seems maybe marginally better all round but lower noise is very noticeable.

Dry grip absolutely not to the same level as the Contact Sport 7, which is a mic drop of a tyre in my experience, or the PS4S on my Supersport but still very decent and it's very progressively slidey too which is the main thing. I have had exciting slides where the SC7 would have dug in and gone, which I can't say I'm tremendously sad about.

No wet experience yet....

I lack the competence to give a more nuanced view than that, it'll be very interesting to see what Jon at Tyre Reviews makes of them when he tests them.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Monday 23 June 20:56

cliffords

2,987 posts

41 months

Monday 23rd June
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I was going to post and ask today ,glad you posted .

I found three things with them on my XK.

They were much better after 200 miles , especially now it's warm.
I dropped the pressure a bit .
They are heaps more sticky than the Dunlops I took off,by a mile .

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Monday 23rd June
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cliffords said:
I was going to post and ask today ,glad you posted .

I found three things with them on my XK.

They were much better after 200 miles , especially now it's warm.
I dropped the pressure a bit .
They are heaps more sticky than the Dunlops I took off,by a mile .
The Jaguar fit Dunlops are famously st, I've had frankly terrifying experiences of them on 270bhp soot chucker Jaguars so I can see why the XKRs picked up a reputation for swapping ends with rubbish like that fitted. Oddly they never seem to test or review as dreadful, but they're easily as bad as chinese ditchfinders in the rain. Not great in the dry either, the SC7 transformed my car.

I'm probably coming up to about 200 miles, they're at the factory pressures (36 rear / 33 front) so I'll play about with them now.

They really are very good, and in a straight line don't seem to spin up any more or less than the SC7 but coming out of junctions and off roundabouts it's easier to provoke tail out action.

AmoCS

Original Poster:

1,174 posts

237 months

ninepoint2

3,761 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd June
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I've had Kumho on a couple of cars, one with 572 bhp and found them to be very good, much better than the Pirelli or Yokohama I had on it before, currently running them on a D4 S8 with 520bhp and again find them to be a very good all rounder.

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Monday 23rd June
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AmoCS said:
It's pretty light on details but it looks like that's the regular PS72 not the PS72 S, who knows how much difference there is but the Michelin PS4 and PS4 S were very different tyres.

Source data for that video is here

https://die-reifentester.de/reifentests/die-karten...

Kumho PS72 did very very well, albeit on the same car my old nan drives rather than a proper car hehe



Edited by GeniusOfLove on Monday 23 June 23:08

E-bmw

11,542 posts

170 months

Tuesday 24th June
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GeniusOfLove said:
which is a mic drop of a tyre in my experience,
Confused.com

Rapid85

55 posts

73 months

Saturday 18th October
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GeniusOfLove said:
Have you got to try them in the rain yet?
I've just come on to ask you the same thing now that we're 4 months on lol.

I have a BMW 7 series F01 and have ran PS4S for about 5 years now. The price is just getting silly, the cheapest I can get them is £240 each in 20's. I can get the Kumho sport s' at £150.

I don't push the car at all, so I know PS4S are overkill, but because it's RWD and I'm running non run flats, I've never wanted to risk it with tyres. The car is only 258 bhp but I don't want to be wheel spinning from a standing start in really wet conditions that we get here in the UK.

I'd value your opinion if you've had chance to test them in the wet? TIA.

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Saturday 18th October
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They’re very good, they give up a tiny bit of ground on performance to the PS4S and SC7 but I’ll be buying them again. Wet performance has been very good.

Rapid85

55 posts

73 months

Saturday 18th October
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GeniusOfLove said:
They re very good, they give up a tiny bit of ground on performance to the PS4S and SC7 but I ll be buying them again. Wet performance has been very good.
Thanks for that. I've gone for a couple. They don't have to be quite as good for me but if they're in the ball park I'm happy. They've obviously got to give up something and I suspect it's rolling resistance. We'll see how I get on.

GeniusOfLove

4,261 posts

30 months

Saturday 18th October
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Rapid85 said:
GeniusOfLove said:
They re very good, they give up a tiny bit of ground on performance to the PS4S and SC7 but I ll be buying them again. Wet performance has been very good.
Thanks for that. I've gone for a couple. They don't have to be quite as good for me but if they're in the ball park I'm happy. They've obviously got to give up something and I suspect it's rolling resistance. We'll see how I get on.
Tread life might be another thing they give up. I've been using Pirelli PZero PZ4 on the back of my Supersport and the tread life has been outstanding given how hard they work, and the Continental CS7 did 15k miles on the back of my XKR and they weren't easy miles.

I think in respect of grip, feel, progressiveness at the limit and other performance factors if you're doing anything less demanding that chucking >500bhp through one end of the car or taking it on track the difference between the Kumhos and the absolute best UUHP tyres will be very very marginal indeed. They don't have quite the (outstanding) bite that the CS7 had on dry roads but there isn't much in it.

Huzzah

28,288 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th October
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These look like they'd be a good option to replace my current pirelli powergys, refinement and steering feel are the priorities.