Can I glue my wall back together?
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Now hear me out!
My stone wall has the top layer of stones all loose.....they literally pull off the concrete mortar they were set on years ago. That mortar is rock solid....it just no longer sticks the stone down.
So the "proper" thing would be get off the old mortar and reset the stones (I assume - I'm a DIY newbie) but.....I keep hearing that mortar isn't a great adhesive.....so would I not get a BETTER result leaving the existing mortar there, GLUE the stones back (they fit perfect obviously!) using one of the modern stick anything glues....and then point around them with fresh mortar.
Would that not give BETTER adhesion - and a far quicker simpler job. Not trying to cut corners, but trying to work smart!
My stone wall has the top layer of stones all loose.....they literally pull off the concrete mortar they were set on years ago. That mortar is rock solid....it just no longer sticks the stone down.
So the "proper" thing would be get off the old mortar and reset the stones (I assume - I'm a DIY newbie) but.....I keep hearing that mortar isn't a great adhesive.....so would I not get a BETTER result leaving the existing mortar there, GLUE the stones back (they fit perfect obviously!) using one of the modern stick anything glues....and then point around them with fresh mortar.
Would that not give BETTER adhesion - and a far quicker simpler job. Not trying to cut corners, but trying to work smart!
21TonyK said:
Awesome - ordered 3 tubes hoping this would be the answer!So glue - then mortar around them to "look" proper?
Mark Lewis said:
21TonyK said:
Awesome - ordered 3 tubes hoping this would be the answer!So glue - then mortar around them to "look" proper?
Andeh1 said:
I think so... But then I'm tempted to do the same thing with some paving slabs... So I'll watch this thread with interest.
Someone suggested this bodge many years ago on here, I had 4 slabs come loose on my patio which were fully bedded but hadn't been buttered on their backsI was skeptical but gave it a try
Pick up the slab, give it a quick clean, squirt expanding foam in the hole and put it on top
If you're picky, it will still sound slightly hollow but 6 years on, still holding
Do the job properly,
Get a bag of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
Get a bag of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
Edited by Wacky Racer on Friday 7th March 09:57
Wacky Racer said:
Do the job properly,
Get a bad of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
This BUT buy yourself some SBR; clean off all the old mortar and remove all dust, mix a slurry of neat SBR and cement and paint on the wall/stones; mix up your 4-1 mortar with a splash of SBR in it and re-bed the stones while the slurry is still tacky. If you splash the slurry anywhere it doesn’t need to go, wash it off immediately.Get a bad of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
Wacky Racer said:
Do the job properly,
Get a bad of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
Yep. Can't see any other way. Get a bad of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
LotusMartin said:
I used some gorilla glue a big round stone on our porch step in an emergency, figured it would last a week… that was 2 years ago and it’s not going anywhere!
The orangey foaming stuff - would do it again if needed.
Use this method as both surfaces need to be damp for it to work properly hence it’s ideal for paving and stone . It’s commonplace in France , I was told to use expanding foam to lay some stone steps years ago and it’s worked perfectly. The orangey foaming stuff - would do it again if needed.
Wacky Racer said:
Do the job properly,
Get a bad of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
This exactlyGet a bad of sand and cement and mix a small amount at a ratio of 4sand to one cement with a small trowel,
Cost less than a tenner, and around half an hours work.
You will enjoy doing it, it's hardly the great wall of China.
Put a decent bed of mortar on, and point up, but wait for a dry day,
Why do people try to glue a wall back together when a bit of cement will do the job for another 20 years just like it did before, cement is easy to mix and use.
ARHarh said:
This exactly
Why do people try to glue a wall back together when a bit of cement will do the job for another 20 years just like it did before, cement is easy to mix and use.
Because in this situation glue will work better , re - bedding in mortar wil result in the same problem unless the op tops the wall off with a coping stone .Why do people try to glue a wall back together when a bit of cement will do the job for another 20 years just like it did before, cement is easy to mix and use.
Mark Lewis said:
paulwirral said:
Because in this situation glue will work better , re - bedding in mortar will result in the same problem unless the op tops the wall off with a coping stone .
There is an odd refusal to accept that modern glues will stick better! and do the job in seconds!I agree modern glues are very good, but not for this application, it would still want pointing up, otherwise it would not look right. (imo)
Wacky Racer said:
Mark Lewis said:
paulwirral said:
Because in this situation glue will work better , re - bedding in mortar will result in the same problem unless the op tops the wall off with a coping stone .
There is an odd refusal to accept that modern glues will stick better! and do the job in seconds!I agree modern glues are very good, but not for this application, it would still want pointing up, otherwise it would not look right. (imo)
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