Insurance... again

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markd51

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8 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd March
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Hi everyone, quick question re insurance. It's renewal time and for past few years I've been with NFU. Premiums have been gradually going up and this year now over £600 for a V12 Vantage manual (2013) with miles limited to 3k. Live in North London. Any good reccomendations out there? thanks Mark

Dewi 2

1,658 posts

80 months

Monday 3rd March
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As per a previous insurance topic, after the NFU trebled mine and other AM PHers' renewal premiums, quite a few years ago, I assumed that insurer was wiping its book clear of low annual mileage, carefully driven Aston Martins.

Try Aviva Direct.

Perhaps your location might not be the lowest risk area.

LTP

2,588 posts

127 months

Monday 3rd March
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As David says, Aviva Direct offered me the cheapest quote - but I think it depends on what you're after. Aviva provide the AMOC insurance so they'll know about Aston Martins, but the Aviva Direct policy is really stripped out (you can add stuff back in, at a cost) and at basic says they'll use their repairers and the reserve the right to use pattern or recycled parts to repair a car.

In the end I went with the AMOC scheme through Locktons - considerably more, but peace of mind

petesv8v

96 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd March
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If you have PPF be aware a number of the main stream insurance providers now regard this as a modification and wont cover the car - Aviva is one and have recently experienced this and had to renew elsewhere

Agent57

2,110 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd March
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Saga.

geresey

492 posts

138 months

Monday 3rd March
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Agent57 said:
Saga.
Ditto.

V8V Pete

2,521 posts

141 months

Tuesday 4th March
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petesv8v said:
If you have PPF be aware a number of the main stream insurance providers now regard this as a modification and wont cover the car - Aviva is one and have recently experienced this and had to renew elsewhere
This seems completely bizarre.

I have front end PPF and am currently insured with Aviva. When applying for insurance I have never been asked if my car has PPF and have certainly never considered volunteering this as a "modification". Did they ask you directly if your car had PPF?

I can understand them wanting to know because it increases the payout on bodywork repairs if the PPF is re-instated as part of the work. Of course, they could instead just exclude the PPF from the cover they provide i.e. they will repair the panels but not cover the PPF being replaced.

Please clarify exactly what you know about this PPF insurance issue and how you came about this information. Thanks.

GDamv8

37 posts

86 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Here is one of the discussion I have seen on the topic

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Agent57

2,110 posts

169 months

Tuesday 4th March
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V8V Pete said:
This seems completely bizarre.

I have front end PPF and am currently insured with Aviva. When applying for insurance I have never been asked if my car has PPF and have certainly never considered volunteering this as a "modification". Did they ask you directly if your car had PPF?

I can understand them wanting to know because it increases the payout on bodywork repairs if the PPF is re-instated as part of the work. Of course, they could instead just exclude the PPF from the cover they provide i.e. they will repair the panels but not cover the PPF being replaced.

Please clarify exactly what you know about this PPF insurance issue and how you came about this information. Thanks.
There was a letter and reply in Autocar magazine recently. IIRC Porsche tells its customers to declare to insurance.

Unless it was standard fitment to the car it counts as a 'modification'.

BiggaJ

1,007 posts

54 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Another vote for Saga for my previous VH Vantage ... in the end I got a 3 year fixed price with no penalty clause for early termination if I sold the car (which I did) ... in all 7k miles a year £240 fully comp.

However, Saga wanted £2500 for my 2C Vantage and I ended up with Admiral at £400.

raceboy

13,446 posts

295 months

Tuesday 4th March
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BiggaJ said:
Another vote for Saga for my previous VH Vantage ... in the end I got a 3 year fixed price with no penalty clause for early termination if I sold the car (which I did) ... in all 7k miles a year £240 fully comp.

However, Saga wanted £2500 for my 2C Vantage and I ended up with Admiral at £400.
Another old git with a Saga 3 year deal, they promise to hold the renewal price for 3 years which for me has been a £1 under £300, only issue is you have to be over 50, and they do not seem to like the newer more expensive cars, when I enquired about a quote for a 2019 Vantage the existing insurer wasn't even interested in quoting.
But I've also not had to use the insurance, so couldn't comment on how good they are when it's needed. wink

Simpo Two

89,086 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Spurred on by all this talk of Saga, I just got a quote.

£2290.79 rofl

That's 4x more than I currently pay!

Hereandthere

128 posts

64 months

Tuesday 4th March
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"This seems completely bizarre"

My understanding is that you must report the fitting of PPF as a modification as not to do so is likely to result in a claim being dismissed. I have an R8 and my son has a Mustang Dark Horse, both insured with Admiral, and we were told to show the PPF as a modification. The sub category for reporting the PPF is: "Exterior decorative changes". The cars did did not cost anymore to insure but we both now have peace of mind that Admiral knew about it when calculating the premium.

markd51

Original Poster:

8 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Thanks all for replies, really helpful. Also have PPF on front end and didn't have a clue that's treated as a modification!

Hereandthere

128 posts

64 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Neither did I and had been driving cars with PPF fitted for years without letting the insurance company know. It might be just a recent requirement to treat it as a modification but it does make me wonder what would have happened if I had needed to claim .

TarquinMX5

2,249 posts

95 months

Tuesday 4th March
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markd51 said:
Thanks all for replies, really helpful. Also have PPF on front end and didn't have a clue that's treated as a modification!
It's not really a new thing. I can't recall the ins. co. now but I recall reading one explaining that it was a modification and the reason they needed to know was that the cost to put the car back to the same condition was higher due to the need to remove/replace. Another one, again can't recall which one, stated that they would not offer cover if PPF is applied.

paulrog1

1,107 posts

156 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Simpo Two said:
Spurred on by all this talk of Saga, I just got a quote.

£2290.79 rofl

That's 4x more than I currently pay!
Try Admiral, mine was £240

Simpo Two

89,086 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th March
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paulrog1 said:
Try Admiral, mine was £240
Wow, £388.95! I don't need it until October but defo worth remembering, thanks smile

Part of the difference may be that Saga count claims for 5 years but Admiral only 3, and I had a claim 4-5 years ago.

Jon39

13,818 posts

158 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Simpo Two said:
Spurred on by all this talk of Saga, I just got a quote.

£2290.79 rofl

I expect that includes their compulsory Saga holiday.
A one week cruise for £2,000, or for anyone who can stand it, two weeks for £1,000.

Anyway John, you are not old enough to be eligible for Saga yet.

Talking of age, reminds me. Here is a joke for you to keep ready for the right occasion.

A person says to you, "It is my 70th birthday today".
To which you reply, "But you don't look 70".
Long pause - - -
"You did 10 years ago".


Simpo Two

89,086 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th March
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Jon39 said:
I expect that includes their compulsory Saga holiday.
A one week cruise for £2,000, or for anyone who can stand it, two weeks for £1,000.
Their cruises are expensive too. P&O for me.