LG TV, EE TV box and soundbar help
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Mum has recently replaced her Sony TV with a new LG OLED (55B42LA), and I'm struggling to get everything working.
With the Sony, it was wired up using HDMI from the EE TV box to the Yamaha YAS109 soundbar, then HDMI from the soundbar to the TV. I've wired up the LG the same way.
2 problems:
The TV starts up set to HDMI1 (the EE TV box), but after about 10 seconds, it switches to the aerial TV input.
When watching aerial TV, there's no sound from the soundbar.
The TV is set to "last input on startup", so why does it switch to aerial input?
All worked fine with the Sony, not with the LG.
What we are trying to achieve (worked before):
Turn on (or off) TV, EE and soundbar using voice control (Alexa)
Watch TV using the EE box as the default
Control volume etc. with the EE TV remote
I've spent about 4 hours getting this far. Getting the TV to work with Alexa was a massive pain, but that now works.
Just can't convince the TV to stay on HDMI1
With the Sony, it was wired up using HDMI from the EE TV box to the Yamaha YAS109 soundbar, then HDMI from the soundbar to the TV. I've wired up the LG the same way.
2 problems:
The TV starts up set to HDMI1 (the EE TV box), but after about 10 seconds, it switches to the aerial TV input.
When watching aerial TV, there's no sound from the soundbar.
The TV is set to "last input on startup", so why does it switch to aerial input?
All worked fine with the Sony, not with the LG.
What we are trying to achieve (worked before):
Turn on (or off) TV, EE and soundbar using voice control (Alexa)
Watch TV using the EE box as the default
Control volume etc. with the EE TV remote
I've spent about 4 hours getting this far. Getting the TV to work with Alexa was a massive pain, but that now works.
Just can't convince the TV to stay on HDMI1
I have a similar set up with an LG tv.
I have mine connected differently and it seems to work.
Soundbar is connected to the ARC HDMI on the tv. The tv box is connected to a different HDMi port on the TV (Blu-ray is connected to another HDMI on the Tv).
My tv box is not directly connected to the soundbar, it goes direct to the TV.
I have mine connected differently and it seems to work.
Soundbar is connected to the ARC HDMI on the tv. The tv box is connected to a different HDMi port on the TV (Blu-ray is connected to another HDMI on the Tv).
My tv box is not directly connected to the soundbar, it goes direct to the TV.
Scrump said:
I have a similar set up with an LG tv.
I have mine connected differently and it seems to work.
Soundbar is connected to the ARC HDMI on the tv. The tv box is connected to a different HDMi port on the TV (Blu-ray is connected to another HDMI on the Tv).
My tv box is not directly connected to the soundbar, it goes direct to the TV.
I tried doing it that way as it's the most logical. Mum had an "engineer" out when her old BT TV box was replaced by the EE box. He re-jigged the cabling - old Sony TV at that point.I have mine connected differently and it seems to work.
Soundbar is connected to the ARC HDMI on the tv. The tv box is connected to a different HDMi port on the TV (Blu-ray is connected to another HDMI on the Tv).
My tv box is not directly connected to the soundbar, it goes direct to the TV.
Problem was, I couldn't get the soundbar volume to change using the EE TV remote. Seems like the EE box remote can't be programmed for amplifiers/soundbars like the old BT box, but it does vary the audio level from the HDMI output.
I suppose it would work if I could get the TV to pass though the EE sound to the soundbar directly.
The real issue is getting the TV to switch on with the correct HDMI input, and not switch to the aerial input after 15 seconds
Reading up on the EE TV remote, it's actually Bluetooth. Something about having to set up the TV or amplifier from the EE TV app, and the remote will then use IR to control other devices?
Assuming I can figure that out, and get the EE remote to control the TV volume, would the TV volume buttons then control the soundbar if I connected the soundbar to the TV by HDMI?
Mum basically wants to do everything from one remote, plus turn on and off with Alexa. This worked fine with the old Sony TV, as set up by the EE installer
Edit:
A bit more reading, and it looks like I should be able to connect the soundbar to the TV using HDMI, into the ARC ports at each end. Set both devices to use CEC.
Connect the EE box to the TV HDMI1.
Use the EE mobile app to set the remote to work with the LG TV.
Set routines in Alexa to turn on the TV, or the TV and EE box together. Soundbar should automatically turn on.
She should then be able to get audio through the soundbar at all times, and use either the TV or EE remotes to adjust the volume as required.
OR
Leave it wired as it is now, enable CEC, and the TV should switch to HDMI as soon as the EE box is turned on, and audio should work?
Assuming I can figure that out, and get the EE remote to control the TV volume, would the TV volume buttons then control the soundbar if I connected the soundbar to the TV by HDMI?
Mum basically wants to do everything from one remote, plus turn on and off with Alexa. This worked fine with the old Sony TV, as set up by the EE installer
Edit:
A bit more reading, and it looks like I should be able to connect the soundbar to the TV using HDMI, into the ARC ports at each end. Set both devices to use CEC.
Connect the EE box to the TV HDMI1.
Use the EE mobile app to set the remote to work with the LG TV.
Set routines in Alexa to turn on the TV, or the TV and EE box together. Soundbar should automatically turn on.
She should then be able to get audio through the soundbar at all times, and use either the TV or EE remotes to adjust the volume as required.
OR
Leave it wired as it is now, enable CEC, and the TV should switch to HDMI as soon as the EE box is turned on, and audio should work?
Edited by clockworks on Tuesday 25th February 17:05
clockworks said:
Reading up on the EE TV remote, it's actually Bluetooth. Something about having to set up the TV or amplifier from the EE TV app, and the remote will then use IR to control other devices?
Assuming I can figure that out, and get the EE remote to control the TV volume, would the TV volume buttons then control the soundbar if I connected the soundbar to the TV by HDMI?
Mum basically wants to do everything from one remote, plus turn on and off with Alexa. This worked fine with the old Sony TV, as set up by the EE installer
Edit:
A bit more reading, and it looks like I should be able to connect the soundbar to the TV using HDMI, into the ARC ports at each end. Set both devices to use CEC.
Connect the EE box to the TV HDMI1.
Use the EE mobile app to set the remote to work with the LG TV.
Set routines in Alexa to turn on the TV, or the TV and EE box together. Soundbar should automatically turn on.
She should then be able to get audio through the soundbar at all times, and use either the TV or EE remotes to adjust the volume as required.
OR
Leave it wired as it is now, enable CEC, and the TV should switch to HDMI as soon as the EE box is turned on, and audio should work?
That's the critical bit - 'connect soundbar to TV eARC. All other sources connect to any spare TV HDMI inputs. This will allow all sound and most other functions to be used with the EE remote.Assuming I can figure that out, and get the EE remote to control the TV volume, would the TV volume buttons then control the soundbar if I connected the soundbar to the TV by HDMI?
Mum basically wants to do everything from one remote, plus turn on and off with Alexa. This worked fine with the old Sony TV, as set up by the EE installer
Edit:
A bit more reading, and it looks like I should be able to connect the soundbar to the TV using HDMI, into the ARC ports at each end. Set both devices to use CEC.
Connect the EE box to the TV HDMI1.
Use the EE mobile app to set the remote to work with the LG TV.
Set routines in Alexa to turn on the TV, or the TV and EE box together. Soundbar should automatically turn on.
She should then be able to get audio through the soundbar at all times, and use either the TV or EE remotes to adjust the volume as required.
OR
Leave it wired as it is now, enable CEC, and the TV should switch to HDMI as soon as the EE box is turned on, and audio should work?
Edited by clockworks on Tuesday 25th February 17:05
There are a few other settings you may have to configure on the TV and EE box like (as you say) CEC and also you may have something called 'Pass Though' that you could 'toggle'.
Also the TV and EE box power settings can complicate things by putting things into standby mode - best to have everything always powered on as it only saves you pennies anyway!
One final thing that I've had issues with is how you power down and up. What works for me a double click (of about 2 seconds apart) to turn off the lot and the same to power back up. I'll post the link about that when I find it.
Right, finally had a chance to try it.
I left the EE box plugged into the soundbar (HDMI), and connected the soundbar to the TV's ARC HDMI port.
A bit of fiddling with TV settings, and the soundbar works fine, can be controlled from the TV remote when watching Freeview via the TV tuner, and from the EE remote when watching the EE box.
The one final problem is getting the TV to power up and stay on the HDMI3 input.
I've set the TV to start on "last used input".
Everything powers up using an Alexa routine, the TV shows the EE box picture (HDMI3) for a few seconds, the switches back to using the TV's tuner.
If I try leaving the EE box switched on, and just turning the TV off and back on again, it does the same thing - starts on the correct input, then switches to the TV input.
If I then manually select the HDMI3 jnput, it stays there and works perfectly.
Mum is struggling with the layout of the LG remote (87 years old, bad arthritis), and has trouble pressing the input button, pointing the on-screen "cursor" at the correct input icon, then holding the remote still while pressing the "ball" OK button.
For this reason, she would much rather use the EE remote and the EE box - if only I could convince the TV to start up and stay on HDMI3!
I left the EE box plugged into the soundbar (HDMI), and connected the soundbar to the TV's ARC HDMI port.
A bit of fiddling with TV settings, and the soundbar works fine, can be controlled from the TV remote when watching Freeview via the TV tuner, and from the EE remote when watching the EE box.
The one final problem is getting the TV to power up and stay on the HDMI3 input.
I've set the TV to start on "last used input".
Everything powers up using an Alexa routine, the TV shows the EE box picture (HDMI3) for a few seconds, the switches back to using the TV's tuner.
If I try leaving the EE box switched on, and just turning the TV off and back on again, it does the same thing - starts on the correct input, then switches to the TV input.
If I then manually select the HDMI3 jnput, it stays there and works perfectly.
Mum is struggling with the layout of the LG remote (87 years old, bad arthritis), and has trouble pressing the input button, pointing the on-screen "cursor" at the correct input icon, then holding the remote still while pressing the "ball" OK button.
For this reason, she would much rather use the EE remote and the EE box - if only I could convince the TV to start up and stay on HDMI3!
clockworks said:
Right, finally had a chance to try it.
I left the EE box plugged into the soundbar (HDMI), and connected the soundbar to the TV's ARC HDMI port.
A bit of fiddling with TV settings, and the soundbar works fine, can be controlled from the TV remote when watching Freeview via the TV tuner, and from the EE remote when watching the EE box.
The one final problem is getting the TV to power up and stay on the HDMI3 input.
I've set the TV to start on "last used input".
Everything powers up using an Alexa routine, the TV shows the EE box picture (HDMI3) for a few seconds, the switches back to using the TV's tuner.
If I try leaving the EE box switched on, and just turning the TV off and back on again, it does the same thing - starts on the correct input, then switches to the TV input.
If I then manually select the HDMI3 jnput, it stays there and works perfectly.
Mum is struggling with the layout of the LG remote (87 years old, bad arthritis), and has trouble pressing the input button, pointing the on-screen "cursor" at the correct input icon, then holding the remote still while pressing the "ball" OK button.
For this reason, she would much rather use the EE remote and the EE box - if only I could convince the TV to start up and stay on HDMI3!
Here's the manual for the soundbar..........I left the EE box plugged into the soundbar (HDMI), and connected the soundbar to the TV's ARC HDMI port.
A bit of fiddling with TV settings, and the soundbar works fine, can be controlled from the TV remote when watching Freeview via the TV tuner, and from the EE remote when watching the EE box.
The one final problem is getting the TV to power up and stay on the HDMI3 input.
I've set the TV to start on "last used input".
Everything powers up using an Alexa routine, the TV shows the EE box picture (HDMI3) for a few seconds, the switches back to using the TV's tuner.
If I try leaving the EE box switched on, and just turning the TV off and back on again, it does the same thing - starts on the correct input, then switches to the TV input.
If I then manually select the HDMI3 jnput, it stays there and works perfectly.
Mum is struggling with the layout of the LG remote (87 years old, bad arthritis), and has trouble pressing the input button, pointing the on-screen "cursor" at the correct input icon, then holding the remote still while pressing the "ball" OK button.
For this reason, she would much rather use the EE remote and the EE box - if only I could convince the TV to start up and stay on HDMI3!
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets...
Section 2 page 15 shows this..........
Then plug the EE box into any other spare HDMI port on the TV (not the soundbar)
clockworks said:
Right, finally had a chance to try it.
I left the EE box plugged into the soundbar (HDMI), and connected the soundbar to the TV's ARC HDMI port.
A bit of fiddling with TV settings, and the soundbar works fine, can be controlled from the TV remote when watching Freeview via the TV tuner, and from the EE remote when watching the EE box.
The one final problem is getting the TV to power up and stay on the HDMI3 input.
I've set the TV to start on "last used input".
Everything powers up using an Alexa routine, the TV shows the EE box picture (HDMI3) for a few seconds, the switches back to using the TV's tuner.
If I try leaving the EE box switched on, and just turning the TV off and back on again, it does the same thing - starts on the correct input, then switches to the TV input.
If I then manually select the HDMI3 jnput, it stays there and works perfectly.
Mum is struggling with the layout of the LG remote (87 years old, bad arthritis), and has trouble pressing the input button, pointing the on-screen "cursor" at the correct input icon, then holding the remote still while pressing the "ball" OK button.
For this reason, she would much rather use the EE remote and the EE box - if only I could convince the TV to start up and stay on HDMI3!
Use the d pad on the lg remote. There's no need to use the magic remote cursor I left the EE box plugged into the soundbar (HDMI), and connected the soundbar to the TV's ARC HDMI port.
A bit of fiddling with TV settings, and the soundbar works fine, can be controlled from the TV remote when watching Freeview via the TV tuner, and from the EE remote when watching the EE box.
The one final problem is getting the TV to power up and stay on the HDMI3 input.
I've set the TV to start on "last used input".
Everything powers up using an Alexa routine, the TV shows the EE box picture (HDMI3) for a few seconds, the switches back to using the TV's tuner.
If I try leaving the EE box switched on, and just turning the TV off and back on again, it does the same thing - starts on the correct input, then switches to the TV input.
If I then manually select the HDMI3 jnput, it stays there and works perfectly.
Mum is struggling with the layout of the LG remote (87 years old, bad arthritis), and has trouble pressing the input button, pointing the on-screen "cursor" at the correct input icon, then holding the remote still while pressing the "ball" OK button.
For this reason, she would much rather use the EE remote and the EE box - if only I could convince the TV to start up and stay on HDMI3!
journeymanpro said:
Use the d pad on the lg remote. There's no need to use the magic remote cursor
The TV only came with one remote. Normal buttons, apart from the "OK" button is a scroll wheel as well as a pushbutton.It seems to randomly switch between being a normal remote (tabbing between sections with the 4-way ring) and a "magic" remote that needs pointing to move a cursor.
I can't see any option to disable the "magic" stuff. Not helped by LG not supplying any form of paper manual.
It's put me right off ever buying an LG TV.
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