Recommend a motherboard/RAM please?
Discussion
Hi,
I will start this by the fact that I work the IT industry but rarely build PC's. A distant family member (18yo teen) is keen to learn on how to upgrade their PC, anything that encourages learning I'm all for so offered to help from afar. So much so that they went out and bought this CPU https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX8071512900KF-Core... thinking that they could upgrade their current computer. When I was advised I queried what they had currently. No, their current computer is a intel i5-3770 from abut 2013!
So after stating this isn't as simple as thought, they ask what they needed. I suggested as a minimum a new motherboard and new memory. Apparently cost isn't an issue (way not take to a shop, but anyway).
I've been asked what motherboard is needed and I will be honest I haven't a clue as far as match the CPU socket I'm here looking for suggestions. Reasonably priced ones.
I think he has a Nvidia GTX 1660 GPU currently and I've said that will be ok to get up and running but that will be the next thing to upgrade to improve gaming as after that upgrade the GPU will be bottlenecking the system.
I spent a part of my early career late 90's and early 00's building PC's in my first job and then as a side making a few £££ but the last time was about 3 years ago and I've only really ever had AMD kit. Just feels a bit difficult recommending Intel spec and from afar, not being my money also worries me.
I have advised him (and his dad) to study PC building tutorials over and over again before buying any further parts to ensure that he is comfortable with doing this (along with the right tools and precautions) and to avoid frying anything.
From pictures sent the case looks full size and the PSU seem to be 500W with the connection for the GPU additional power bus.
My dad risked £200 on me upgrading our 486 to AMD K5 off the back of my 3 weeks work experience in a computer shop. I can do it Dad, and I did!
I have found this at first search, I have a preference for Gigabyte boards in my last few builds and not had any issues.
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-b760-ds3h-ddr4-i...
I will start this by the fact that I work the IT industry but rarely build PC's. A distant family member (18yo teen) is keen to learn on how to upgrade their PC, anything that encourages learning I'm all for so offered to help from afar. So much so that they went out and bought this CPU https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX8071512900KF-Core... thinking that they could upgrade their current computer. When I was advised I queried what they had currently. No, their current computer is a intel i5-3770 from abut 2013!
So after stating this isn't as simple as thought, they ask what they needed. I suggested as a minimum a new motherboard and new memory. Apparently cost isn't an issue (way not take to a shop, but anyway).
I've been asked what motherboard is needed and I will be honest I haven't a clue as far as match the CPU socket I'm here looking for suggestions. Reasonably priced ones.
I think he has a Nvidia GTX 1660 GPU currently and I've said that will be ok to get up and running but that will be the next thing to upgrade to improve gaming as after that upgrade the GPU will be bottlenecking the system.
I spent a part of my early career late 90's and early 00's building PC's in my first job and then as a side making a few £££ but the last time was about 3 years ago and I've only really ever had AMD kit. Just feels a bit difficult recommending Intel spec and from afar, not being my money also worries me.
I have advised him (and his dad) to study PC building tutorials over and over again before buying any further parts to ensure that he is comfortable with doing this (along with the right tools and precautions) and to avoid frying anything.
From pictures sent the case looks full size and the PSU seem to be 500W with the connection for the GPU additional power bus.
My dad risked £200 on me upgrading our 486 to AMD K5 off the back of my 3 weeks work experience in a computer shop. I can do it Dad, and I did!
I have found this at first search, I have a preference for Gigabyte boards in my last few builds and not had any issues.
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-b760-ds3h-ddr4-i...
Ironduke12 said:
Hi,
I will start this by the fact that I work the IT industry but rarely build PC's. A distant family member (18yo teen) is keen to learn on how to upgrade their PC, anything that encourages learning I'm all for so offered to help from afar. So much so that they went out and bought this CPU https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX8071512900KF-Core... thinking that they could upgrade their current computer. When I was advised I queried what they had currently. No, their current computer is a intel i5-3770 from abut 2013!
So after stating this isn't as simple as thought, they ask what they needed. I suggested as a minimum a new motherboard and new memory. Apparently cost isn't an issue (way not take to a shop, but anyway).
I've been asked what motherboard is needed and I will be honest I haven't a clue as far as match the CPU socket I'm here looking for suggestions. Reasonably priced ones.
I think he has a Nvidia GTX 1660 GPU currently and I've said that will be ok to get up and running but that will be the next thing to upgrade to improve gaming as after that upgrade the GPU will be bottlenecking the system.
I spent a part of my early career late 90's and early 00's building PC's in my first job and then as a side making a few £££ but the last time was about 3 years ago and I've only really ever had AMD kit. Just feels a bit difficult recommending Intel spec and from afar, not being my money also worries me.
I have advised him (and his dad) to study PC building tutorials over and over again before buying any further parts to ensure that he is comfortable with doing this (along with the right tools and precautions) and to avoid frying anything.
From pictures sent the case looks full size and the PSU seem to be 500W with the connection for the GPU additional power bus.
My dad risked £200 on me upgrading our 486 to AMD K5 off the back of my 3 weeks work experience in a computer shop. I can do it Dad, and I did!
I have found this at first search, I have a preference for Gigabyte boards in my last few builds and not had any issues.
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-b760-ds3h-ddr4-i...
You don't say what form factor but as you say the case is full size I would assume that ATX is ok. I've used Gigabyte, Asus and AsRock boards in the past and never had a problem with any of them. You really need to know what he wants to do and what features he needs to properly advise but I think the best place to go is pcpartpicker.com.I will start this by the fact that I work the IT industry but rarely build PC's. A distant family member (18yo teen) is keen to learn on how to upgrade their PC, anything that encourages learning I'm all for so offered to help from afar. So much so that they went out and bought this CPU https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX8071512900KF-Core... thinking that they could upgrade their current computer. When I was advised I queried what they had currently. No, their current computer is a intel i5-3770 from abut 2013!
So after stating this isn't as simple as thought, they ask what they needed. I suggested as a minimum a new motherboard and new memory. Apparently cost isn't an issue (way not take to a shop, but anyway).
I've been asked what motherboard is needed and I will be honest I haven't a clue as far as match the CPU socket I'm here looking for suggestions. Reasonably priced ones.
I think he has a Nvidia GTX 1660 GPU currently and I've said that will be ok to get up and running but that will be the next thing to upgrade to improve gaming as after that upgrade the GPU will be bottlenecking the system.
I spent a part of my early career late 90's and early 00's building PC's in my first job and then as a side making a few £££ but the last time was about 3 years ago and I've only really ever had AMD kit. Just feels a bit difficult recommending Intel spec and from afar, not being my money also worries me.
I have advised him (and his dad) to study PC building tutorials over and over again before buying any further parts to ensure that he is comfortable with doing this (along with the right tools and precautions) and to avoid frying anything.
From pictures sent the case looks full size and the PSU seem to be 500W with the connection for the GPU additional power bus.
My dad risked £200 on me upgrading our 486 to AMD K5 off the back of my 3 weeks work experience in a computer shop. I can do it Dad, and I did!
I have found this at first search, I have a preference for Gigabyte boards in my last few builds and not had any issues.
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-b760-ds3h-ddr4-i...
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#...
Despite it not being the CPU I'd go for anyway (it's 4 generations old now) the 12900KF is not significantly faster than the 12700KF except in edge cases where the extra 'efficiency' cores can be used. As he's changing platforms anyway, I'd have gone for an AM5 with DDR5 RAM - and if it was mostly for gaming, then the 9800X3D is miles ahead at lower resolutions where the CPU is the bottleneck...at 4K the GPU is the bottleneck.
If he's planning on getting a beefier GPU in the near future then they'll have to replace the PSU too (I'd go for a modular ATX3 model), as that CPU can use 250W at full blast...and a modern 1440P GPU will draw that much too (AMD 7800XT = 263W, Nvidia RTX4070 Super = 220W).
He'll want a decent cooler to stop the i9 from throttling as it heats up - either a very beefy tower cooler, or a decent AIO liquid cooler.
If he's planning on getting a beefier GPU in the near future then they'll have to replace the PSU too (I'd go for a modular ATX3 model), as that CPU can use 250W at full blast...and a modern 1440P GPU will draw that much too (AMD 7800XT = 263W, Nvidia RTX4070 Super = 220W).
He'll want a decent cooler to stop the i9 from throttling as it heats up - either a very beefy tower cooler, or a decent AIO liquid cooler.
Personally, the stage that machine has got to now, I’d rather let someone else build a whole new machine. It will probably work out cheaper. Plus they will warranty it, do all the burn in tests etc. I mean if he wants to do it for fun / hobby, that is a different matter. But if he just wants to game with the latest specs, he’s picking a long hard road doing it component by component.
Edited by wyson on Thursday 20th February 18:59
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