Issues with brakes - can't find the fault

Issues with brakes - can't find the fault

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TREMAiNE

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4,066 posts

161 months

Sunday 16th February
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The track car a friend and I own has been off the road for a year now with a brakes issue we cannot resolve.
I have posted on here before for help and had some good suggestions but nothing has worked and we're struggling to diagnose what is causing the issue.

I was approaching Paddock Hill bend and hit the brakes and noticed they weren't "all there", it felt as if I only had half brakes, I took it easy and brought the car back in. The pedal was going fully to the floor with no resistance.

So far we, have:
-Replaced the master cylinder
-Manually bled the ABS and master cylinder from all connections to/from them (multiple times)
-Bled the brakes (multiple times)
-Used a pressurised brake bleeder to try and force the air out
-Tried emergency braking on gravel to try and activate the abs to remove any trapped air
-Completely stripped the brakes down and refurbished the callipers with new seals, pistons, guide pins and grease

But despite all that, the pedal is still going to the floor with almost no pressure.

We’re stumped at what else we can do to fix the issue.
Anything obvious we're missing?


tight fart

3,199 posts

285 months

Sunday 16th February
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Expansion in a rubber hose?

sherman

14,254 posts

227 months

Sunday 16th February
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Have you tried new brake pads?
Try a different brand.
Some just feel better under different conditions.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,822 posts

235 months

Sunday 16th February
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Vacuum hose from inlet manifold to servo possibly split?

Jazoli

9,277 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th February
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Have you connected the car to a diagnostic and bled the abs pump properly? That’s what I’d be trying next.

CoolHands

20,326 posts

207 months

Sunday 16th February
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Maybe the abs pump / module. I have heard of the occasional one that has caused problems only solved once changed



Or see if you could get existing one tested by
https://www.ecutesting.com/common-faults/suzuki/su...



Edited by CoolHands on Sunday 16th February 22:23

TREMAiNE

Original Poster:

4,066 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th February
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CoolHands said:
Maybe the abs pump / module. I have heard of the occasional one that has caused problems only solved once changed



Or see if you could get existing one tested by
https://www.ecutesting.com/common-faults/suzuki/su...



Edited by CoolHands on Sunday 16th February 22:23
Thank you, we are starting to believe it could well be this and will look at refurbing our module.

Richard-D

1,421 posts

76 months

Tuesday 25th February
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This video is worth a watch (knowledgeable mechanic describing exactly your issue and how to diagnose/fix):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzMdKno4-c&t=...