A time warp Peugeot 405 a modern classic?

A time warp Peugeot 405 a modern classic?

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rallycross

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13,453 posts

250 months

Saturday 15th February
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This came up today on eBay looks exceptionally clean


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/197023376918?mkcid=16&a...

Would make a good cheap run around simple to maintain and nice to drive



Sebring440

2,661 posts

109 months

Saturday 15th February
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That is in no way, shape or form, a "classic car".

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Turbobanana

7,121 posts

214 months

Sunday 16th February
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Sebring440 said:
That is in no way, shape or form, a "classic car".

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What is?

At launch (1987) the 405's biggest rival was the Ford Sierra. How much is one of those now?

ARHarh

4,654 posts

120 months

Sunday 16th February
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Sebring440 said:
That is in no way, shape or form, a "classic car".

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Its 32 years old just because you don't want one doesn't mean its not a classic. As we all know because we've been arguing about it since time began, anything someone likes can be a classic even a Cortina smile

KTMsm

28,604 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th February
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Sebring440 said:
That is in no way, shape or form, a "classic car".

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You mean because it's reliable and it's decent to drive ?

Compared to a car sold in the last 5 years it will very much feel like a classic and be simple to work on etc




Wheel Turned Out

1,367 posts

51 months

Sunday 16th February
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I would say so, Peugeot were making some absolutely lovely cars then.

williamp

19,763 posts

286 months

Sunday 16th February
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My definition of a classic is something which hasn't been in production for a while, but that someone has taken time to look after it. Which would make this a classic in my opinion. Not that my opinion matters

The insurance would would allow insurance on that as a "classic"
Its not far off having classic car tax exemption (40 years rolling, so 1985) Same for MOT exemption.

So, yes, or nearly yes.

rallycross

Original Poster:

13,453 posts

250 months

Sunday 16th February
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Wheel Turned Out said:
I would say so, Peugeot were making some absolutely lovely cars then.
Yes when these came out they were a super to drive hence me thinking it may now be a modern classic - the 405 Mi16 certainly is but even these base models were good to drive for the time.

InitialDave

13,064 posts

132 months

Sunday 16th February
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That does look nice. Allow some time and budget to go over it and make sure anything that's suffered from being left dormant is addressed, but I think that would make an excellent usable classic.

I'd want to see it in person before committing, though. Photos of a wet car can mask a lot of sins in terms of condition.

Mr Peel

537 posts

135 months

Monday 17th February
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Picky I know, but I always wish things like this were pre-facelift versions.

Skyedriver

20,352 posts

295 months

Monday 17th February
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Were a bit of a change in direction for the company and were a pleasant drive in their day. Wife had one when we met, a diesel estate that replaced the earlier diesel estate that was nicked. They were popular taxi cars in their day.
Wonder what they're like to drive now?

s m

23,754 posts

216 months

Monday 17th February
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Skyedriver said:
Were a bit of a change in direction for the company and were a pleasant drive in their day. Wife had one when we met, a diesel estate that replaced the earlier diesel estate that was nicked. They were popular taxi cars in their day.
Wonder what they're like to drive now?
The 405s I still see now are diesel versions. I expect they’re much the same to drive now as they were new. Morbidly slow if you’re used to a Tesla but in reality will keep up with traffic and do a decent job of trundling round if you just want a cheap car to run

Lefty

17,821 posts

215 months

Monday 17th February
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405’s are great. Much nicer thing to drive than equivalent Cavalier or Sierra (the Mondeo moved things along though).

durbster

11,205 posts

235 months

Monday 17th February
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Mr Peel said:
Picky I know, but I always wish things like this were pre-facelift versions.
That is pre-facelift isn't it? The facelift removed one of the gaps from the grille and cleaned it up a bit.


Edited by durbster on Monday 17th February 09:34

trevalvole

1,444 posts

46 months

Monday 17th February
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Lefty said:
405’s are great. Much nicer thing to drive than equivalent Cavalier or Sierra (the Mondeo moved things along though).
Agreed, they are - I don't think I've ever driven faster cross-country than in an company pool car diesel estate 405.

Lefty

17,821 posts

215 months

Monday 17th February
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trevalvole said:
Lefty said:
405’s are great. Much nicer thing to drive than equivalent Cavalier or Sierra (the Mondeo moved things along though).
Agreed, they are - I don't think I've ever driven faster cross-country than in an company pool car diesel estate 405.
Ha I would have agreed with that until we had a Citroen Xantia diesel estate company pool car rofl

simon_harris

2,065 posts

47 months

Monday 17th February
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I had a '92 SRi in gun metal grey. Sadly the 8v 2.0 not the Mi16 but it was a great car, handled really well and showed up some supposedly more capable cars on track back in the day.


Hoofy

78,407 posts

295 months

Monday 17th February
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Anything between 1980 and 2010 I would call a modern classic. You'd see similar on certain events days at Brooklands.


dan98

893 posts

126 months

Monday 17th February
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They were nice to drive, for those who liked that kind of drive.

But as mainstream saloons from that era go, a 1993 405 GL is just extremely 'meh' with nothing much to offer over it's rivals.

If it really must be classed as a classic, then be prepared to add these to the list:

Ford Mondeo
Vauxhall Cavalier
Citroen Xantia
Renault 19
Rover 214

Truckosaurus

12,561 posts

297 months

Monday 17th February
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My father had a couple of 405s back in the day when they were 'new'. They certainly were a notch above Cavaliers and Sierras.

I got to drive his second one one summer as a student, it was a dealer special edition so was a base model with an Mi16 bodykit.

It had 165 width tyres, no PAS and a twin-choke carb - so certainly 'old fashioned' even by early '90s standards.