Cat S from remapping? BMW i8
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Hi all
Question please - guy is selling an i8, its listed as Cat S. He says its from remapping (to 3.9 0-60). Can't see anything online which implies this would make it a Cat S but its not really my area.
Also how does remapping / body kits effect insurance?
I've watched a load of videos on the i8 - but any real world experience welcome. Some questions I have - doors in car parks, running costs, relability
Thanks
Question please - guy is selling an i8, its listed as Cat S. He says its from remapping (to 3.9 0-60). Can't see anything online which implies this would make it a Cat S but its not really my area.
Also how does remapping / body kits effect insurance?
I've watched a load of videos on the i8 - but any real world experience welcome. Some questions I have - doors in car parks, running costs, relability
Thanks
Cat S is an insurance write-off due to structural damage. Remapping won't make a car Cat S unless it made it so powerful that he crashed because he couldn't handle the power. Stick the reg number into Car Vertical/Vcheck/etc. and run a report.
Also, conventional views on reliability, running costs, etc. will be irelevant if it's remapped. And... bodykit on an i8, seriously?
Sounds like a car that would make any sensible person do their best Usain Bolt impression. Is there an Autotrader, etc. link you can share?
Also, conventional views on reliability, running costs, etc. will be irelevant if it's remapped. And... bodykit on an i8, seriously?
Sounds like a car that would make any sensible person do their best Usain Bolt impression. Is there an Autotrader, etc. link you can share?
Couple of threads containing first hand experience:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Vanq66 said:
I can see why he's selling it!That's not a crap body kit, that's a crap body kit:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025011781...
Regarding things to look for... Air con should be nice and cold as the same system cools the battery; no knocks or rattles from the compressor.
There's a hidden menu to see battery health without resorting to external diagnostic tools. Ideally with a full charge, put ignition in Accessories mode, long press the trip reset button bottom left of instrument display and hold it past the service reset indicators until a menu appears.
Short press the same button to cycle to Unlock. Long press until it asks you for a code which is the sum of the last five numbers in VIN. Some sources say last six numbers so try that if previous code doesn't work. Repeatedly press button until you get to that number then long press to access the hidden options.
Short press to cycle to Tank then long press to access. Cycle down to see battery figures with one, Battery Kapa max, showing a number in kWh. On the early models with a 7.1 kWh battery the max usable when new was 5.2kWh as BMW limit the charge to prolong life. You can calculate current health by deviation from this figure.
Pat's Garage Online on YouTube is a useful resource for common problems, repairs and mods for the i8.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025011781...
Regarding things to look for... Air con should be nice and cold as the same system cools the battery; no knocks or rattles from the compressor.
There's a hidden menu to see battery health without resorting to external diagnostic tools. Ideally with a full charge, put ignition in Accessories mode, long press the trip reset button bottom left of instrument display and hold it past the service reset indicators until a menu appears.
Short press the same button to cycle to Unlock. Long press until it asks you for a code which is the sum of the last five numbers in VIN. Some sources say last six numbers so try that if previous code doesn't work. Repeatedly press button until you get to that number then long press to access the hidden options.
Short press to cycle to Tank then long press to access. Cycle down to see battery figures with one, Battery Kapa max, showing a number in kWh. On the early models with a 7.1 kWh battery the max usable when new was 5.2kWh as BMW limit the charge to prolong life. You can calculate current health by deviation from this figure.
Pat's Garage Online on YouTube is a useful resource for common problems, repairs and mods for the i8.
Yep i8 defo doesn't need a body kit as its rare enough or mapped for that matter. Most i8 private sellers on AT are waaaayyy off with their pricing, making them more expensive that dealers. I traded in my 2015 70Kmile for £21.5K and the dealer listed it at £27K. A cat S with 50Kmiles is £24K private sale if not lower....
Buy with a warranty at least for the first year as most trade in with issues which are not always immediately apparent. (which are tricky to fix as your usually lumbered with main dealer wage costs)
Its the only car I've had where I replaced it with the same but newer model. Lovely cars. (total 7 years ownership Faults :door locks, AC compressor but consumables : brakes, shocks and drives shafts can be expensive) Be more worried by the high stressed 3 pot and whether its been cold started at speed rather than the battery - left to itself the i8 will first start the ICE at 40mph under load. (like most hybrids) (Oh and another reason to avoid mapping - lets make a stressed 3 pot more stressed!)
Buy with a warranty at least for the first year as most trade in with issues which are not always immediately apparent. (which are tricky to fix as your usually lumbered with main dealer wage costs)
Its the only car I've had where I replaced it with the same but newer model. Lovely cars. (total 7 years ownership Faults :door locks, AC compressor but consumables : brakes, shocks and drives shafts can be expensive) Be more worried by the high stressed 3 pot and whether its been cold started at speed rather than the battery - left to itself the i8 will first start the ICE at 40mph under load. (like most hybrids) (Oh and another reason to avoid mapping - lets make a stressed 3 pot more stressed!)
Edited by iain123 on Wednesday 12th February 09:51
https://its-juice-2.foleon.com/bmw-group/bmw-insur...
"If the warranty on your new or Approved Used BMW is coming to an end, has expired, or you’ve never had warranty cover, BMW Insured Warranty can help to protect you against the unexpected cost of repairs and replacement parts."
Even under the Comprehensive tier some of the exclusions are laughable.
If a car is outside the BMW network and has no current warranty you should contact Insured Warranty for a quote and any conditions they may apply.
The i8 has two warranties: the high voltage battery which runs for 8 years from when car first registered; the manufacturer warranty followed by Approved Used if applicable. The AU covers everything except the HV battery and any wear/tear items. The HV battery can't be extended and the Insured Warranty excludes it.
So it's possible to have an i8 where only the battery is covered, or where the car but not battery is, or where everything is covered, or nothing is. Clear?!
My criteria for buying one recently was an Approved Used Car, less than 8 years old so everything was covered.
"If the warranty on your new or Approved Used BMW is coming to an end, has expired, or you’ve never had warranty cover, BMW Insured Warranty can help to protect you against the unexpected cost of repairs and replacement parts."
Even under the Comprehensive tier some of the exclusions are laughable.
If a car is outside the BMW network and has no current warranty you should contact Insured Warranty for a quote and any conditions they may apply.
The i8 has two warranties: the high voltage battery which runs for 8 years from when car first registered; the manufacturer warranty followed by Approved Used if applicable. The AU covers everything except the HV battery and any wear/tear items. The HV battery can't be extended and the Insured Warranty excludes it.
So it's possible to have an i8 where only the battery is covered, or where the car but not battery is, or where everything is covered, or nothing is. Clear?!
My criteria for buying one recently was an Approved Used Car, less than 8 years old so everything was covered.
skyebear said:
https://its-juice-2.foleon.com/bmw-group/bmw-insur...
"If the warranty on your new or Approved Used BMW is coming to an end, has expired, or you’ve never had warranty cover, BMW Insured Warranty can help to protect you against the unexpected cost of repairs and replacement parts."
Even under the Comprehensive tier some of the exclusions are laughable.
If a car is outside the BMW network and has no current warranty you should contact Insured Warranty for a quote and any conditions they may apply.
The i8 has two warranties: the high voltage battery which runs for 8 years from when car first registered; the manufacturer warranty followed by Approved Used if applicable. The AU covers everything except the HV battery and any wear/tear items. The HV battery can't be extended and the Insured Warranty excludes it.
So it's possible to have an i8 where only the battery is covered, or where the car but not battery is, or where everything is covered, or nothing is. Clear?!
My criteria for buying one recently was an Approved Used Car, less than 8 years old so everything was covered.
Thanks, yeah I couldn't really work out from that if "never had a warranty" included cars purchased outside of the BMW network. "If the warranty on your new or Approved Used BMW is coming to an end, has expired, or you’ve never had warranty cover, BMW Insured Warranty can help to protect you against the unexpected cost of repairs and replacement parts."
Even under the Comprehensive tier some of the exclusions are laughable.
If a car is outside the BMW network and has no current warranty you should contact Insured Warranty for a quote and any conditions they may apply.
The i8 has two warranties: the high voltage battery which runs for 8 years from when car first registered; the manufacturer warranty followed by Approved Used if applicable. The AU covers everything except the HV battery and any wear/tear items. The HV battery can't be extended and the Insured Warranty excludes it.
So it's possible to have an i8 where only the battery is covered, or where the car but not battery is, or where everything is covered, or nothing is. Clear?!
My criteria for buying one recently was an Approved Used Car, less than 8 years old so everything was covered.
Approved Used for you being BMW direct right?
thanks
Vanq66 said:
Thanks, yeah I couldn't really work out from that if "never had a warranty" included cars purchased outside of the BMW network.
Approved Used for you being BMW direct right?
thanks
I read it as written and assumed that so long as there's evidence the car was serviced according to BMW's schedule they'd cover it. They might charge accordingly... I did a quote out of curiosity for mine and it was £1750 for 12 months for comprehensive.Approved Used for you being BMW direct right?
thanks
Yes, my approved used was from a BMW dealer.
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