FFS! HAND TIGHT ONLY!!!

FFS! HAND TIGHT ONLY!!!

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Rubin215

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4,154 posts

170 months

Tuesday 4th February
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I'm not often defeated when it comes to removing oil filters, but this one is going to require a decent night's sleep first.






This is why spin-on filters are only meant to be hand tight...

banghead

Steve Bass

10,517 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Rubin215 said:
I'm not often defeated when it comes to removing oil filters, but this one is going to require a decent night's sleep first.






This is why spin-on filters are only meant to be hand tight...

banghead
Here's one....

A guy wants to buy my spare 1098 engine because he cracked his crank case tightening the sump plug!!!
FFS!! Do people have zero mechanical sympathy??
A monkey with a $1000 digital torque wrench is still a monkey buy any other name....

Krikkit

27,396 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Rubin215 said:


This is why spin-on filters are only meant to be hand tight...

banghead
Could it have been put on with a dry seal? Had one once that I watched a mechanic do up by hand but took similar destruction to remove

CoolHands

20,675 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Maybe run it and warm it up - the expansion will help loosen the thread

BertBert

20,293 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th February
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CoolHands said:
Maybe run it and warm it up - the expansion will help loosen the thread
with, er, how do you say, no oil pressure? Are you sure?

Richard-D

1,459 posts

78 months

Tuesday 4th February
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BertBert said:
CoolHands said:
Maybe run it and warm it up - the expansion will help loosen the thread
with, er, how do you say, no oil pressure? Are you sure?
I'm sure that was the joke. He's right though, heat will help and there'll be lots of it running it like that!

CoolHands

20,675 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th February
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biggrin

I guess you could try a heat gun to see if it helps. I wouldn’t use a naked flame.

podman

8,972 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th February
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That looks a bloody nightmare! Good luck, let us know how you did it once done!

Fastdruid

9,008 posts

166 months

Tuesday 4th February
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I've never had a problem....but then I follow the instructions religiously. Oil the seal and torque up to low end of spec (from memory on mine 10-15Nm).

Anyway, seeing as it has a set of convenient holes I would use a peg spanner. ie something like this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-Adjustable-Span...

If you don't have one then circlip/longnose plier jammed into the holes and then a suitable spanner across them.

Or screw a couple of bolts in and use a bar across them.

s p a c e m a n

11,305 posts

162 months

Wednesday 5th February
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You're going lefty loosey yeah?

hehe

WarnieV6GT

1,300 posts

213 months

Wednesday 5th February
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s p a c e m a n said:
You're going lefty loosey yeah?

hehe
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stang65

444 posts

151 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Fastdruid said:
I've never had a problem....but then I follow the instructions religiously. Oil the seal and torque up to low end of spec (from memory on mine 10-15Nm).

Anyway, seeing as it has a set of convenient holes I would use a peg spanner. ie something like this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-Adjustable-Span...

If you don't have one then circlip/longnose plier jammed into the holes and then a suitable spanner across them.

Or screw a couple of bolts in and use a bar across them.
^^^ This. Depending on access you might be able to bend the base plate of the filter away from the engine to break the seal. As has been said, it's probably been put on without oil/grease rather than over tightened so if you can weaken the seal it'll likely come of easy.

Time4another

397 posts

17 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Ooft, many many swear words.

ChocolateFrog

31,566 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Ooft. I've got as far as a hammer and chisel but that looks like a pearler.

I'm sure we've all seen the viral videos of mechanics JB Welding oil filters on because of some perceived slight from the customer.

Maybe you've found one of those.

RazerSauber

2,730 posts

74 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Someone's put that on with a rattle gun

stu67

868 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Heavens shouldn't laugh this sounds like one of my "quick" jobs. I had the rear brake off of my SV 3 times at the weekend because I failed to locate the pads correctly. The simplest jobs are the ones that always balls up and I hate when you go out to the garage thinking "I'll be out here 5 minutes to do a simple job" which leads to 5 yours of 1 step forward 2 back.

Condi

18,729 posts

185 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Take an old socket, weld on some bar across and then down to the width of the holes, so you've got like a fork. Stick a ratchet or bar onto the socket and you should be able to twist off.

Or if you can get a punch/long bar in there you might be able to use a punch to knock it around, again using the holes.

Crudeoink

1,057 posts

73 months

Wednesday 5th February
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The only time I ever took my MT10 to be serviced at a garage (doing other jobs too) they tightened the oil filter to about 5000nm, gits. I stupidly tried the screwdriver stabbed in the oil filter trick and it just chewed the filter up and still didnt come off. Had to use a chisel to knock the remaining carcass around FFS banghead

HairyMaclary

3,751 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th February
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That looks three dugga duggas tight...

stang65

444 posts

151 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Crudeoink said:
The only time I ever took my MT10 to be serviced at a garage (doing other jobs too) they tightened the oil filter to about 5000nm, gits. I stupidly tried the screwdriver stabbed in the oil filter trick and it just chewed the filter up and still didnt come off. Had to use a chisel to knock the remaining carcass around FFS banghead
I don't know anyone who has had success with the screwdriver method, the filter always rips first. I only tried it once in the early '90s on a Mk2 Escort, and it didn't work then. Maybe filters were stronger in the '60s/'70s when they first moved to canister filters and this method became myth then?