Is this garage trying to have my leg up? Clio clutch repair

Is this garage trying to have my leg up? Clio clutch repair

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Cvvc1

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18 posts

2 months

Saturday 1st February
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markymarkthree

2,839 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st February
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This post makes me think, thank goodness for BREXIT.

Skyedriver

20,143 posts

294 months

Saturday 1st February
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Guy I work with had a similar experience, not certain may have been Renault. Wet belt engine, not a Ford, went in for a recall, left it with them, next day, wouldn't start, needed a new starter motor. Dealer was in Inverness if that helps.

Chimune

3,567 posts

235 months

Saturday 1st February
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Is the car fixed ?

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,726 posts

77 months

Saturday 1st February
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Yeah probably burnt the starter motor out 'driving' it into the workshop using the starter motor.

Chimune

3,567 posts

235 months

Sunday 2nd February
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So it hasnt had master changed - but he cant think of a reason it still wont engage.. so must be faulty LUK clutch kit?
Just get it to a different garage.

Lo-Fi

915 posts

82 months

Sunday 2nd February
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My eyes hurt.

Unreal

6,454 posts

37 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Cvvc1 said:
1.5 dci 90 2015 Clio

Clutch pedal went soft , 10 min later couldn't select gear . Garage across the street amazingly was a Renault specalist amongst about 10 other brands pumped clutch about 20 times managed to get some life in it drove it to the garage .

Said may need master cylinder 250 euro may need clutch and slave 550 worst case 800 total .


Next day I have gone there and apparently the car didn't start that morning when they went to go and move it into the workshop to fix it . never had issue like this before starting it and he showed me the starter motor now this is the day after it broke down the day it broke down they took it in and out of the workshop to diagnose the fault parked it up that evening to do the job the next day then couldn't start it starter motor was fine in it

and said smell that it's smells horrible had a whiff and indeed wasnt very pleasant smelled burnt , so in end didn't get a master cylinder. But got a starter motor instead ;

So now it's had a clutch and a slave cylinder and a starter motor randomly to the cost of 800 euro or about 690 pound no flywheel just clutch kit and release bearing and starter motor and slave cylinder this master cylinder that had to be replaced if doing the slave has been completely forgotten about in lieu of this starter . So still got the old master cylinder so paid 500 labour is that right in Greece this is mainland some industrial area garages everywhere And for what reason did I end up getting a. Starter motor when it was fine

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Smint

2,202 posts

47 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Haven't experienced this for myself (never had a dual mass flywheel in any of my own vehicles), but have read of starter motors being damaged when a DMF starts to disintegrate, presumably this could also happen with other flywheel/clutch types.


200Plus Club

11,730 posts

290 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Lo-Fi said:
My eyes hurt.
Agreed, how can anyone decipher it and offer any help?

Hutline08

8 posts

5 months

Sunday 2nd February
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markymarkthree said:
This post makes me think, thank goodness for BREXIT.
Enlighten me please

to the OP, the car is 9 years old, what are you expecting ?

Cvvc1

Original Poster:

18 posts

2 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Expecting many people with seemingly no mechanical skills and a million comments on spelling and other random things (as most of us got between grade a and c at gcse English whether we choose to implement our skills or not where sadly not all of us are trained mechanics ) statistically this would make sense ,

and within that maybe one or two comments that may actually have knowledge help a stranger without wishing to be wined and dined first .

So far so good I've had 8 completely useless comments and a couple of helpful ones so slowly but surely we may get there .

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200Plus Club

11,730 posts

290 months

Sunday 2nd February
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I doubt it..

stuthemongoose

2,439 posts

229 months

Sunday 2nd February
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As above

They’ve fked the starter by using the starter to drive the car about.

Cowboys charging you for that that they couldn’t be arsed to push it, took the easy route, and are asking you to pick up the tab.

loskie

6,100 posts

132 months

Sunday 2nd February
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[quote=Cvvc1]Expecting many people with seemingly no mechanical skills and a million comments on spelling and other random things (as most of us got between grade a and c at gcse English whether we choose to implement our skills or not where sadly not all of us are trained mechanics ) statistically this would make sense ,

and within that maybe one or two comments that may actually have knowledge help a stranger without wishing to be wined and dined first .

So far so good I've had 8 completely useless comments and a couple of helpful ones so slowly but surely we may get there .

Good response.

stevieturbo

17,714 posts

259 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Cvvc1 said:
No after it's new clutch and slave he couldn't get it to select gear and has bled it says no air all he can think of it's a faulty clutch LUK and on Monday going to take it back and get another one it won't select gear turned on . Theyre a range Rover specialist have loads of nice cars here so they can't be that incompetent they have old mgs etc jag f types and loads of land Rover products he seems a nice bloke but should it cost this much ?
And why I having a starter the clutch was on the floor have they driven to the workshop on the starter or something or damaged it somehow doing a slave is that feesible ?
lots of post editing going on ?

Anyway.

Without a better description of the problem, and exactly what is going on when there are shifting problems, engine off ? on ? Does it drive at all ? Is there a clutch pedal ? etc etc etc

But yes a lot does sound odd. But nobody here can see or feel what is happening. You are right there should be little reason for the starter motor to be burnt out, and it could be possible as another said it was used to move the car.
But we also know nothing of the history of the vehicle, so it could well just be coincidence.
If indeed it was even the starter from your car they showed you, and I presume you seen the new one installed ?

Did they show you any fluid leaks from the clutch prior to work that might indicate a slave ? Was there any fluid loss ? either at the slave, any hoses, or the master area ?

Everything is just too vague at present.

But you presumably paid them to diagnose and fix, which they appear not to have done. They should be explaining to you what is going on, their process etc etc

Have they ?

Cvvc1

Original Poster:

18 posts

2 months

Sunday 2nd February
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They showed me the leak and fluid on the engine tray . Now it starts and runs , but to move it you have to start it in gear , it won't select a gear when running only when turned off and will drive if you start it in first or reverse and use that gear

. He said he has bled the clutch there is no air just fluid and he can't understand what is going on and the only possiblity was a duff clutch from LUK..

suppose my main gripe is if they have damaged the starter and are charging me 159 for fitting it abit cheeky especially when they are working in that area anyway doing another expensive repair . Or maybe it needed a master cylinder all along ,

TwinKam

3,276 posts

107 months

Sunday 2nd February
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...or maybe they are not bleeding it appropriately, some concentric slaves are right buggers, and you have to try various methods, eg it might respond to 'reverse bleeding'.
They should not be charging you any labour re the new starter motor, it had to come off to do the clutch job.

E-bmw

10,655 posts

164 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Cvvc1 said:
the only possiblity was a duff clutch from LUK..
Or it hasn't been fitted properly.

Cvvc1

Original Poster:

18 posts

2 months

Sunday 2nd February
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E-bmw said:
Cvvc1 said:
the only possiblity was a duff clutch from LUK..
Or it hasn't been fitted properly.
Yes could that have damaged it trying to select gear with am I'll fitted clutch as I might insist on a new one after having all this done be nice to actually have a healthy clutch he said it's rare but maybe 5 per cent of parts are defective I'm not sure on that . Can someone tell me is fitting a starter motor a big job when doing a slave cylinder , thanks for everyone's help

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