570S New owner advice
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Hi guys,
Got the 570S home yesterday and wow she is just immense. Like my old Exige turned up to 20 and whilst I loved the i8, she was amazing, this is very different beast. The best steering Ive felt in any car, my 340R included. Regardless I have so many questions! Ultimately I just dont know the car, roads a little cold and wet to really push her so questioning whats normal. The group that sold her have been great and offered to fix any niggle but my problem being so far north even Mclaren Glasgow I lose a day just driving. If I can fix myself I far prefer this and the sellers will help supply parts without issue.
My other problem is being new to the car Im a little ignorant as to whats normal so hope you can advise these questions please?
- I hear occasionally a clunk (not unlike a lotus) on larger bumps from the rear but only on the right side. Will get her over the pit to check springs shortly but wondered if you would expect wheel spin in 4th? 3 figure units here so its a little unnerving. Or is there maybe an issue in the back suspension exaggerating this, hence my thinking. Car keeps it under control so not too scary but I figured she would manage to maintain traction even in 2 degree temps (tyre temps 12-15)?
- The glove box button is falling inside the dash and not opening the glove box so potentially faulty also. Anyone have wiring diagram to see if I can trigger the switch elsewhere and also anyone know how to get in behind the dash? Any guides?
- Roof has a bad resonance on certain roads and speeds. If I push the lining up beside the light it stops the issue. I will try drop the light and put in something to try absorb or maybe see if there is something amiss. Just wondered if anyone else had similar?
- I drove 400 miles yesterday and the tyres, engine oil and water went green but the transmission remained blue, occasionally flicking to green and disappearing but would be back to blue and on the screen more often than not. is it normal for transmission to not reach green temps if ambient is 5 degrees C driving constant 70mph?
-Forums. Im maybe a little old school and not a facebook/messenger user hence why I like here. I see there are about a million groups, should I be joining one or them all and directing questions there?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but new to the car and really not sure what to expect so any advice would be greatly appreciated or if you are near Fraserburgh we could meet up too,
Thanks
Craig
Got the 570S home yesterday and wow she is just immense. Like my old Exige turned up to 20 and whilst I loved the i8, she was amazing, this is very different beast. The best steering Ive felt in any car, my 340R included. Regardless I have so many questions! Ultimately I just dont know the car, roads a little cold and wet to really push her so questioning whats normal. The group that sold her have been great and offered to fix any niggle but my problem being so far north even Mclaren Glasgow I lose a day just driving. If I can fix myself I far prefer this and the sellers will help supply parts without issue.
My other problem is being new to the car Im a little ignorant as to whats normal so hope you can advise these questions please?
- I hear occasionally a clunk (not unlike a lotus) on larger bumps from the rear but only on the right side. Will get her over the pit to check springs shortly but wondered if you would expect wheel spin in 4th? 3 figure units here so its a little unnerving. Or is there maybe an issue in the back suspension exaggerating this, hence my thinking. Car keeps it under control so not too scary but I figured she would manage to maintain traction even in 2 degree temps (tyre temps 12-15)?
- The glove box button is falling inside the dash and not opening the glove box so potentially faulty also. Anyone have wiring diagram to see if I can trigger the switch elsewhere and also anyone know how to get in behind the dash? Any guides?
- Roof has a bad resonance on certain roads and speeds. If I push the lining up beside the light it stops the issue. I will try drop the light and put in something to try absorb or maybe see if there is something amiss. Just wondered if anyone else had similar?
- I drove 400 miles yesterday and the tyres, engine oil and water went green but the transmission remained blue, occasionally flicking to green and disappearing but would be back to blue and on the screen more often than not. is it normal for transmission to not reach green temps if ambient is 5 degrees C driving constant 70mph?
-Forums. Im maybe a little old school and not a facebook/messenger user hence why I like here. I see there are about a million groups, should I be joining one or them all and directing questions there?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but new to the car and really not sure what to expect so any advice would be greatly appreciated or if you are near Fraserburgh we could meet up too,
Thanks
Craig
To answer some of your questions.
The glove box issue could be solved by a reset of the comfort module (need a dealer / someone with MDS) but the fact the button is adrift might suggest something else. I think that getting to the back of the button without opening the glovebox is a big job.
The blue / sometimes green gearbox oil light is normal when driving at steady speeds etc.
The glove box issue could be solved by a reset of the comfort module (need a dealer / someone with MDS) but the fact the button is adrift might suggest something else. I think that getting to the back of the button without opening the glovebox is a big job.
The blue / sometimes green gearbox oil light is normal when driving at steady speeds etc.
Thanks Charles,
Reassuring on the light so thanks for that and to be fair the seller told me this just seemed strange to not get green on a long drive.
Managed to get the switch working and the glove box open. The switch was jammed in so now working well but only held on one side so still need to get into the back to fix it properly. See a couple screws to will take better look maybe after the rugby.
Also jacked up and spring looks fine so will investigate knock a little more but less concerned. What a car, just immense.
Reassuring on the light so thanks for that and to be fair the seller told me this just seemed strange to not get green on a long drive.
Managed to get the switch working and the glove box open. The switch was jammed in so now working well but only held on one side so still need to get into the back to fix it properly. See a couple screws to will take better look maybe after the rugby.
Also jacked up and spring looks fine so will investigate knock a little more but less concerned. What a car, just immense.
That clunk could be a few things:
A damper issue (e.g., internal wear or fluid cavitation).
A loose or worn suspension bushing in the wishbones or toe links.
Spring seating issues, where the coil might not be sitting perfectly under load.
Top mount movement in the damper assembly.
Subframe or drivetrain mounts allowing more movement than intended.
Exhaust or Heat Shield Contact – A loose heat shield or slightly shifted exhaust could knock under compression.
If it happens mainly over bigger bumps and only on one side, it might suggest something with a single mounting point, like a damper top mount or a suspension link with play. When you check over the pit, look for any unusual movement or wear marks. Also check for any side-to-side differences in ride height or damping resistance when pushing down on the rear right might give some clues.
Also, a bit left field but McLaren uses a floating caliper at the rear, which can allow the pads to move slightly when going over bumps. If there is a small gap between the pads and the caliper bracket, they can rattle or knock.
A damper issue (e.g., internal wear or fluid cavitation).
A loose or worn suspension bushing in the wishbones or toe links.
Spring seating issues, where the coil might not be sitting perfectly under load.
Top mount movement in the damper assembly.
Subframe or drivetrain mounts allowing more movement than intended.
Exhaust or Heat Shield Contact – A loose heat shield or slightly shifted exhaust could knock under compression.
If it happens mainly over bigger bumps and only on one side, it might suggest something with a single mounting point, like a damper top mount or a suspension link with play. When you check over the pit, look for any unusual movement or wear marks. Also check for any side-to-side differences in ride height or damping resistance when pushing down on the rear right might give some clues.
Also, a bit left field but McLaren uses a floating caliper at the rear, which can allow the pads to move slightly when going over bumps. If there is a small gap between the pads and the caliper bracket, they can rattle or knock.
Smoothound said:
I've heard that to fix the glove box switch properly it's dash out which I imagine is quite a job!!
I watched one of the Thorney videos and he mentioned if the button drops into the dash it's a dash out job to sort it!Did you buy it from a dealer and what have they offered the usual 3-months? Not ideal given your location v where you bought it but I'd be more comfortable with McLaren Glasgow checking it over in the absence of anytone else familiar with the brand and then working with who you bought it from to get it fixed, as required, at their expense.
Congrats!
With the loss of traction in 4th, what tyres is it on, and how old are they? The original Pirellis are infamously poor in British weather, MPS4S are pretty decent (nowadays Conti SportContact7 are also recommended).
On the clunk, hard to say but try and check the rear wheels for play. I had a rear right track rod loose which had failed and needed replacing and was making it a little loose in toe.
I'd probably suggest biting the bullet and going to McGlasgow if you can't track down the clunk, it could possibly be a failed bushing on a suspension arm I think. You _could_ try going to a garage to get the alignment checked over, who might be able to check some parts of the suspension in the process, but be advised that it's quite an involved process doing geo (you need to remove a load of covers to start with for one thing) so needs to be a good garage you trust with this sort of car.
Forums - I post here and also pay something like £50 a year to be in the McLaren Owners Club, who have a private facebook group which sometimes has some useful info.
Regards the blue / green temperature - I would say not normal. Happened to me on my brand new 2019 570S and it turned out to be faulty thermostats. I used to live in the Northeast New York border (am in the US) and drove my 570S in the winter where it was regularly -10 or more, I never had the gearbox etc indicators go between blue / green once up to temp.
Lack of traction - you probably have the original P Zeros on there? Replace them with a decent tire like MPS4S
Lack of traction - you probably have the original P Zeros on there? Replace them with a decent tire like MPS4S
br d said:
I think you're right about the steering, although it doesn't have the trick suspension I I think it's the best handling car of all the McLarens..
Agreed - I preferred the 570 over the 720 in terms of driver feel as IMO I felt there was more direct feedback as opposed to the suspension doing all of the work leaving me not knowing where I was really at, I felt I could confidently push the 570 to its limits but the 720 I always struggled with.As I said it’s all IMHO as the 720s has far superior suspension and the above should really be the other way around, I just felt it wasn’t
I'd expect the transmission to go green in less than 100m of spirited driving, certainly 400m without it getting warmed through would concern me. Upto 20mins on a steady drive my trans was blue but soon moved into green area. I drove mine home in -4c and it was in the green after normal use.
Thanks for the replies guys.
Ive not been able to recreate the knock in the suspension again, new to the car so even the littlest thing Im super aware of. Maybe a stone or something but will keep listening. I had the wheel of anc checked the bushes and springs plus bearings, all seems very tight.
Yes the transmission goes green if driving spirited with lots of changes. I had her out day before yesterday and took about 15 minutes. Long 70mph motorway at 2 degree Celsius, maybe with wind and wet weather cooling effect is just on the balance.
Not sure I understand the comment on a long list of problems. As stated I wasnt sure how much was my ignorance and like the transmission this is just learning and gleaning help from other users which is valuable to me. Only problems I have are glove box release and an annoying resonance in the roof lining.
Thanks for the help folks.
Ive not been able to recreate the knock in the suspension again, new to the car so even the littlest thing Im super aware of. Maybe a stone or something but will keep listening. I had the wheel of anc checked the bushes and springs plus bearings, all seems very tight.
Yes the transmission goes green if driving spirited with lots of changes. I had her out day before yesterday and took about 15 minutes. Long 70mph motorway at 2 degree Celsius, maybe with wind and wet weather cooling effect is just on the balance.
Not sure I understand the comment on a long list of problems. As stated I wasnt sure how much was my ignorance and like the transmission this is just learning and gleaning help from other users which is valuable to me. Only problems I have are glove box release and an annoying resonance in the roof lining.
Thanks for the help folks.
cwallacelxxx said:
Not sure I understand the comment on a long list of problems. As stated I wasnt sure how much was my ignorance and like the transmission this is just learning and gleaning help from other users which is valuable to me. Only problems I have are glove box release and an annoying resonance in the roof lining.
Thanks for the help folks.
It's a new car to you, it shouldn't have any issues, well for me anyway unless negotiated in to the price.Thanks for the help folks.
Guess owners may have a different perspective on that, each to their own etc.
cwallacelxxx said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Ive not been able to recreate the knock in the suspension again, new to the car so even the littlest thing Im super aware of. Maybe a stone or something but will keep listening. I had the wheel of anc checked the bushes and springs plus bearings, all seems very tight.
Yes the transmission goes green if driving spirited with lots of changes. I had her out day before yesterday and took about 15 minutes. Long 70mph motorway at 2 degree Celsius, maybe with wind and wet weather cooling effect is just on the balance.
Not sure I understand the comment on a long list of problems. As stated I wasnt sure how much was my ignorance and like the transmission this is just learning and gleaning help from other users which is valuable to me. Only problems I have are glove box release and an annoying resonance in the roof lining.
Thanks for the help folks.
If you haven't already then join the owners club via FB ,its fabulous vfm and they organise some great trips much cheaper than other European organisers.Ive not been able to recreate the knock in the suspension again, new to the car so even the littlest thing Im super aware of. Maybe a stone or something but will keep listening. I had the wheel of anc checked the bushes and springs plus bearings, all seems very tight.
Yes the transmission goes green if driving spirited with lots of changes. I had her out day before yesterday and took about 15 minutes. Long 70mph motorway at 2 degree Celsius, maybe with wind and wet weather cooling effect is just on the balance.
Not sure I understand the comment on a long list of problems. As stated I wasnt sure how much was my ignorance and like the transmission this is just learning and gleaning help from other users which is valuable to me. Only problems I have are glove box release and an annoying resonance in the roof lining.
Thanks for the help folks.
cwallacelxxx said:
Yes the transmission goes green if driving spirited with lots of changes. I had her out day before yesterday and took about 15 minutes. Long 70mph motorway at 2 degree Celsius, maybe with wind and wet weather cooling effect is just on the balance.
To restate what I said in my previous post, I drove my 570S through Northeast USA winters which are far colder than the UK, -10 and more daily, I never had the gearbox temp switching between blue / green. It’s not normal. EK993 said:
cwallacelxxx said:
Yes the transmission goes green if driving spirited with lots of changes. I had her out day before yesterday and took about 15 minutes. Long 70mph motorway at 2 degree Celsius, maybe with wind and wet weather cooling effect is just on the balance.
To restate what I said in my previous post, I drove my 570S through Northeast USA winters which are far colder than the UK, -10 and more daily, I never had the gearbox temp switching between blue / green. It’s not normal. Gassing Station | McLaren | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff