WFH agreements

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Racehorse

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249 posts

22 months

Thursday 30th January
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Anyone have their working from home arrangements written into their contract or just go verbally?

I have just been offered a new role and the contract has wording that says your normal place of work will be your home address. Does this cover it off as the company has an office in London which I am expected to go down to once a month.

I am guessing with my contract saying normal place of work is my home address, I can claim travel expenses going to London office?

okgo

40,130 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th January
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Why not ask them vs the internet.

I had a contract with my home address as the work location. Expenses to other places other were covered.

super7

2,077 posts

220 months

Thursday 30th January
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Yup….. i have a contract that states my normal place of work is at home.. had it for 4 years now.

Going to an office can be claimed on expenses.

TownIdiot

3,057 posts

11 months

Thursday 30th January
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This is your third thread on one job offer

Borderline spam.

Edit FFS I've just remembered your past posts.


Edited by TownIdiot on Thursday 30th January 22:57

shtu

3,845 posts

158 months

Thursday 30th January
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Nailed on one of the other threads,

okgo said:
Does it pay £100k tho?
Trolling some ludicrous contract terms must be the new "£100k".

Jasandjules

70,833 posts

241 months

Friday 31st January
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What does the contract say about other locations? Usually I have a clause in mine that notes you can be requested to work in other locations from time to time etc.

AndyTR

626 posts

136 months

Friday 31st January
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super7 said:
Yup….. i have a contract that states my normal place of work is at home.. had it for 4 years now.

Going to an office can be claimed on expenses.
Exactly this, as does mine. I've been WFH for 16ish years and all contracts have stated this clearly. If I leave the house to travel to a client or one of our offices I'm on expenses. My last trip was to to the US to Head office and I travelled clients in London twice in 2024. Other than that I've been happily sat in my home office and it's fabulous. Last year I made Director and have been practicing dominating the stairs on a regular basis.

captain_cynic

14,554 posts

107 months

Friday 31st January
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shtu said:
Nailed on one of the other threads,

okgo said:
Does it pay £100k tho?
Trolling some ludicrous contract terms must be the new "£100k".
Look at who the OP is.

There is no contract, OP has a history of this kind of trolling.

LastPoster

2,880 posts

195 months

Friday 31st January
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Not necessarily true that travel to an office can be ‘claimed on expenses’ if you are permanently based at home. It’s a matter of company policy. But in some circumstances HMRC will allow expenses incurred to be reclaimed against income tax if the employer doesn’t pay travel expenses

Mr E

22,343 posts

271 months

Friday 31st January
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LastPoster said:
Not necessarily true that travel to an office can be ‘claimed on expenses’ if you are permanently based at home. It’s a matter of company policy. But in some circumstances HMRC will allow expenses incurred to be reclaimed against income tax if the employer doesn’t pay travel expenses
I would be interested in those circumstances?

Collectingbrass

2,499 posts

207 months

Friday 31st January
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Mr E said:
LastPoster said:
Not necessarily true that travel to an office can be ‘claimed on expenses’ if you are permanently based at home. It’s a matter of company policy. But in some circumstances HMRC will allow expenses incurred to be reclaimed against income tax if the employer doesn’t pay travel expenses
I would be interested in those circumstances?
It's what's known as the 24 month rule. If it's a temporary place of work you expect to be at for less than two years and for less than 40% of your time, and that is more than ten miles away from any other location you may go to on a more permanent basis in the vicinity.

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employmen...

zalrak

492 posts

97 months

Friday 31st January
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Was it not established sometime ago that "Racehorse" is the new "Welshbeef" pseudonym?

okgo

40,130 posts

210 months

Friday 31st January
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zalrak said:
Was it not established sometime ago that "Racehorse" is the new "Welshbeef" pseudonym?
I don’t think so.

Both morons but different in their execution.

Red9zero

8,575 posts

69 months

Friday 31st January
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When our local office closed during Covid, I went from being office based on my contract to home based. My manager had a 30 second call with me to confirm I was ok with it, although I had been pretty much WFH for a while, as our local office got slowly smaller. Now I just get an annual assessment to confirm my seating position etc are all ok, but seeing as I swiped my hugely expensive office chair when the office closed down, I am very comfy, thanks. My nearest office is approx 100 miles away and I am not contractually obliged to go there at all, although I go once a year for the Christmas party, which is claimed as a travelling expense.

LastPoster

2,880 posts

195 months

Friday 31st January
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Collectingbrass said:
Mr E said:
LastPoster said:
Not necessarily true that travel to an office can be ‘claimed on expenses’ if you are permanently based at home. It’s a matter of company policy. But in some circumstances HMRC will allow expenses incurred to be reclaimed against income tax if the employer doesn’t pay travel expenses
I would be interested in those circumstances?
It's what's known as the 24 month rule. If it's a temporary place of work you expect to be at for less than two years and for less than 40% of your time, and that is more than ten miles away from any other location you may go to on a more permanent basis in the vicinity.

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employmen...
That wasn’t quite what I meant, but you are correct for that circumstance

If you are home based and your employer asks you to come to the office for a meeting and doesn’t cover all expenses, anything you are out of pocket on can be offset against income tax. So suppose they paid the train fare but wouldn’t cover travel in your car to the station and parking, so you could offset that against income tax. Not if it’s a regular thing though, for example if you had to attend a fixed meeting every Monday. That would be a permanent arrangement.

Racehorse

Original Poster:

249 posts

22 months

Friday 31st January
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LastPoster said:
That wasn’t quite what I meant, but you are correct for that circumstance

If you are home based and your employer asks you to come to the office for a meeting and doesn’t cover all expenses, anything you are out of pocket on can be offset against income tax. So suppose they paid the train fare but wouldn’t cover travel in your car to the station and parking, so you could offset that against income tax. Not if it’s a regular thing though, for example if you had to attend a fixed meeting every Monday. That would be a permanent arrangement.
why is this the case, simply because contract place of work is at home?

Countdown

43,621 posts

208 months

Friday 31st January
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okgo said:
zalrak said:
Was it not established sometime ago that "Racehorse" is the new "Welshbeef" pseudonym?
I don’t think so.

Both morons but different in their execution.
I'm pretty sure it's the same person, it certainly seems the same MO

Just question after question after question, (almost bot-like) that could usually be answered either by googling or by speaking to the (imaginary) HR Dept.

LastPoster

2,880 posts

195 months

Friday 31st January
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Racehorse said:
LastPoster said:
That wasn’t quite what I meant, but you are correct for that circumstance

If you are home based and your employer asks you to come to the office for a meeting and doesn’t cover all expenses, anything you are out of pocket on can be offset against income tax. So suppose they paid the train fare but wouldn’t cover travel in your car to the station and parking, so you could offset that against income tax. Not if it’s a regular thing though, for example if you had to attend a fixed meeting every Monday. That would be a permanent arrangement.
why is this the case, simply because contract place of work is at home?
Yes

Racehorse

Original Poster:

249 posts

22 months

Friday 31st January
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LastPoster said:
Yes
is there guidance on this on the HMRC website?

LastPoster

2,880 posts

195 months

Friday 31st January
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Racehorse said:
LastPoster said:
Yes
is there guidance on this on the HMRC website?
Yes, but until you have seen the new employer’s expenses policy (see your other thread) you won’t know if you will be out of pocket, so not worth the effort of going looking for it.