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Always been a fan of the Buzz. I don't need a car that big but the child in me loves the way it looks, the driving position, and the practicality it offers. Interesting that after all the initial interest when it was launched there are now nearly new models with low miles available for around £40k. My local dealer in Edinburgh has 4 for sale!
I also noticed that VW has upgraded the battery and motor for the SWB model. The standard battery size has increased slightly from 77 to 79 kWh and the power has gone from 204 PS to 286 PS. Range still not the best even with the slightly larger battery - 282 miles WLTP.
Still a bit too much for me but will be keeping an eye on prices over the next 12-18 months.
Anyone on here own one and is happy to share their experience of daily use?
I also noticed that VW has upgraded the battery and motor for the SWB model. The standard battery size has increased slightly from 77 to 79 kWh and the power has gone from 204 PS to 286 PS. Range still not the best even with the slightly larger battery - 282 miles WLTP.
Still a bit too much for me but will be keeping an eye on prices over the next 12-18 months.
Anyone on here own one and is happy to share their experience of daily use?
Edited by Ecosseven on Monday 27th January 10:49
I've got a 1st Edition, bought in December 2023 and now on 16k ish miles. It followed a Tesla Model 3 and a VW T6 California before that so a blend of both. The lifetime average consumption so far is 2.9 kwh/mile so far which suggests 223 mile range but realistically I'd say a safe 200 in the summer and 180 in the winter.
It makes the T6 feel archaic in comparison in terms of ride and NVH. The one change I made was to change the 21" wheels it came with. Its wider that the T6 and the wheels were a complete curb magnet so I've got a set of steels on there now.
The infotainment isn't quite as bad as is made out but is several steps backwards from the Model but the inclusion of CarPlay is a plus. The Comfort seats were a must for me and its a very competent motorway cruiser. We've taken it to Europe a few times now and it eats the miles quite happily.
It makes the T6 feel archaic in comparison in terms of ride and NVH. The one change I made was to change the 21" wheels it came with. Its wider that the T6 and the wheels were a complete curb magnet so I've got a set of steels on there now.
The infotainment isn't quite as bad as is made out but is several steps backwards from the Model but the inclusion of CarPlay is a plus. The Comfort seats were a must for me and its a very competent motorway cruiser. We've taken it to Europe a few times now and it eats the miles quite happily.
How are these for fuel range?
One of our drivers used a new ID Buz to take 4 other drivers to Devon the week before last.
When they got in it the dash said it had 220 miles range,
Their journey was 320 miles in total all motorway or dual carriage.
It cost them £87 to do the trip including using up the range it had when they got in it (very cold day and they drove within the speed limits).
Sounds terrible fuel efficiency.
One of our drivers used a new ID Buz to take 4 other drivers to Devon the week before last.
When they got in it the dash said it had 220 miles range,
Their journey was 320 miles in total all motorway or dual carriage.
It cost them £87 to do the trip including using up the range it had when they got in it (very cold day and they drove within the speed limits).
Sounds terrible fuel efficiency.
rallycross said:
How are these for fuel range?
One of our drivers used a new ID Buz to take 4 other drivers to Devon the week before last.
When they got in it the dash said it had 220 miles range,
Their journey was 320 miles in total all motorway or dual carriage.
It cost them £87 to do the trip including using up the range it had when they got in it (very cold day and they drove within the speed limits).
Sounds terrible fuel efficiency.
If you're reliant on 70p+ /kWh public rapid charging then yes, it's going to be expensive. If you're doing within range of home charging nearly every day then the unit costs are 10% of that.One of our drivers used a new ID Buz to take 4 other drivers to Devon the week before last.
When they got in it the dash said it had 220 miles range,
Their journey was 320 miles in total all motorway or dual carriage.
It cost them £87 to do the trip including using up the range it had when they got in it (very cold day and they drove within the speed limits).
Sounds terrible fuel efficiency.
I must admit I have a slight yearning for one of these, but as I can’t charge at home, then, as for any EV.
The capital cost has to be comparable to an ICE.
The public charging has to approach diesel/petrol cost per mile.
With many new cars, there is always some complaint, and only by using one do you discover if it is minor or a major bugbear.
Having said all that, and tried a Jazz out, how can car makers not make a spacious car within a small footprint? (Especially wrt width).
The capital cost has to be comparable to an ICE.
The public charging has to approach diesel/petrol cost per mile.
With many new cars, there is always some complaint, and only by using one do you discover if it is minor or a major bugbear.
Having said all that, and tried a Jazz out, how can car makers not make a spacious car within a small footprint? (Especially wrt width).
rallycross said:
How are these for fuel range?
One of our drivers used a new ID Buz to take 4 other drivers to Devon the week before last.
When they got in it the dash said it had 220 miles range,
Their journey was 320 miles in total all motorway or dual carriage.
It cost them £87 to do the trip including using up the range it had when they got in it (very cold day and they drove within the speed limits).
Sounds terrible fuel efficiency.
That sounds a lot.One of our drivers used a new ID Buz to take 4 other drivers to Devon the week before last.
When they got in it the dash said it had 220 miles range,
Their journey was 320 miles in total all motorway or dual carriage.
It cost them £87 to do the trip including using up the range it had when they got in it (very cold day and they drove within the speed limits).
Sounds terrible fuel efficiency.
When charging at home, I reckon about 2ppm (7.5p/kWh and 4miles per kWH). An ICE car at 40mpg is about 17ppm.
The costs you quote comes out at about 27ppm so either the Buzz is much less efficient than my Model Y (probably true) or you were paying top whack for charging (probably also true). The most expensive public charger I’ve seen is a Shell Recharge at 85p/kWh (or 21ppm, and which I’ve never used because of that huge price). Tesla Superchargers are more like 40-45p/kWh.
Zigster said:
That sounds a lot.
When charging at home, I reckon about 2ppm (7.5p/kWh and 4miles per kWH). An ICE car at 40mpg is about 17ppm.
The costs you quote comes out at about 27ppm so either the Buzz is much less efficient than my Model Y (probably true) or you were paying top whack for charging (probably also true). The most expensive public charger I’ve seen is a Shell Recharge at 85p/kWh (or 21ppm, and which I’ve never used because of that huge price). Tesla Superchargers are more like 40-45p/kWh.
The Buzz is definitely less efficient than my old Model 3 which would average in excess of 4 miles/kwh without even trying. I've averaged 2.9 to date over 16k miles.When charging at home, I reckon about 2ppm (7.5p/kWh and 4miles per kWH). An ICE car at 40mpg is about 17ppm.
The costs you quote comes out at about 27ppm so either the Buzz is much less efficient than my Model Y (probably true) or you were paying top whack for charging (probably also true). The most expensive public charger I’ve seen is a Shell Recharge at 85p/kWh (or 21ppm, and which I’ve never used because of that huge price). Tesla Superchargers are more like 40-45p/kWh.
The VW charging plans with IONITY are 53p/kwh with a £5.99 monthly sub which takes some of the pain out but I wouldn't be running an EV if I didn't have a charger at home.
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