Replace conservatory with something useful?
Replace conservatory with something useful?
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Wilmslowboy

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4,555 posts

222 months

Sunday 26th January
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We got a conservatory that comes off a room that is linked to our kitchen.
It is quite a useful space since we recently re-jigged our house (and eat more meals in the kitchen area).

However like all conservatories it's freezing in winter, therefore I am exploring getting it replaced with something more permanent and useful.
Something with the same footprint, but perhaps with a lower roof ridge height.

[b]Are those modern glass box extensions actually any warmer ?
perhaps an Oak framed extension ? [/b]


It's within 2 meters of the border (but I'm confident the neighbours will be ok with it, especially if its slightly lower).


sherman

14,464 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th January
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Wilmslowboy said:
We got a conservatory that comes off a room that is linked to our kitchen.
It is quite a useful space since we recently re-jigged our house (and eat more meals in the kitchen area).

However like all conservatories it's freezing in winter, therefore I am exploring getting it replaced with something more permanent and useful.
Something with the same footprint, but perhaps with a lower roof ridge height.

[b]Are those modern glass box extensions actually any warmer ?
perhaps an Oak framed extension ? [/b]


It's within 2 meters of the border (but I'm confident the neighbours will be ok with it, especially if its slightly lower).

Hace a look at the more thermally efficent glass options especually the roof area that you can now get.
You have low walls so probably not big foundations so anything else will reqire a full rebuild

ColinM50

2,675 posts

191 months

Monday 27th January
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We had the roof on our conservatory replaced with a solid insulated roof. Cost us about £8k but the difference has been remarkable. Still need to heat it in the winter but a 3Kw panel heater gets it usable in half an hour. We reckon it's been a lifechanger in that during the winter previously it was unusable whereas now it's fine. Summer's better too, doesn't get as hot and with two opening roof lights, very controllable

Maxus

1,127 posts

197 months

Monday 27th January
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We had exactly the same issue so we've just had a proper roof put on ours. The difference is incredible. We now use it in winter and the room really retains heat. I'm sure it will also be very comfortable in the summer. Probably the best thing we've done to this house.

Composite slates outside and a nicely domed and insulated plastered roof inside with recessed spots. And the best bit, surprisingly reasonable. All done and dusted over 3 days for our 8m x 3m conservatory ready for me to paint the inside

We were recommended these guys by friends. https://cosyroof.com no messing around, measured up, gave their sensible price and that was it.
No special offers / marketing offers / sign today bonus crap. Our neighbour has also now used them. They have great attention to detail and work non stop. We're all delighted.



ColinM50

2,675 posts

191 months

Monday 27th January
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We had the roof on our conservatory replaced with a solid insulated roof. Cost us about £8k but the difference has been remarkable. Still need to heat it in the winter but a 3Kw panel heater gets it usable in half an hour. We reckon it's been a lifechanger in that during the winter previously it was unusable whereas now it's fine. Summer's better too, doesn't get as hot and with two opening roof lights, very controllable

moorx

4,207 posts

130 months

Monday 27th January
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Maxus said:
We had exactly the same issue so we've just had a proper roof put on ours. The difference is incredible. We now use it in winter and the room really retains heat. I'm sure it will also be very comfortable in the summer. Probably the best thing we've done to this house.

Composite slates outside and a nicely domed and insulated plastered roof inside with recessed spots. And the best bit, surprisingly reasonable. All done and dusted over 3 days for our 8m x 3m conservatory ready for me to paint the inside

We were recommended these guys by friends. https://cosyroof.com no messing around, measured up, gave their sensible price and that was it.
No special offers / marketing offers / sign today bonus crap. Our neighbour has also now used them. They have great attention to detail and work non stop. We're all delighted.


That's really lovely.

Wilmslowboy

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4,555 posts

222 months

Monday 27th January
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Thanks, for those that got solid roofs, did you need/ bother with planning ?


ColinM50

2,675 posts

191 months

Monday 27th January
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There is no need for Planning permission for this type of work. And I speak as a town councillor sitting on the planning comittee

bobtail4x4

4,031 posts

125 months

Monday 27th January
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ColinM50 said:
There is no need for Planning permission for this type of work. And I speak as a town councillor sitting on the planning comittee
unless its had the PD rights removed? etc etc,

it will need Building Regs

OutInTheShed

11,581 posts

42 months

Monday 27th January
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You can heat a conservatory for a lot of winter days, for the cost of changing the roof.
If it's space you don't need everyday, it may not pay?

Also, I like glass roof conservatories and don't like the way a solid roof makes the room it's attached to dark.

cliffords

2,640 posts

39 months

Monday 27th January
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ColinM50 said:
There is no need for Planning permission for this type of work. And I speak as a town councillor sitting on the planning comittee
I understood there was a set of criteria that make a temporary garden building exempt from planning consent . There are a few criteria however percentage of glass is one . Does not reducing the percentage effect this ?

Wilmslowboy

Original Poster:

4,555 posts

222 months

Saturday 1st February
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Looking to get some quotes for replacement roof, plus make good inside.

What should I expect to pay ?

It is 3 meters by 3 meters

(no doubt first quotes will be subject to Cheshire premium)


Terminator X

17,867 posts

220 months

Saturday 1st February
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I think you'll be surprised at how expensive a cavity wall type extension is in 2025 if you went down that route.

TX.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,320 posts

181 months

Saturday 1st February
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If having a solid roof, I’d consider adding a couple of sun tunnels to retain the sense of light. They’re surprisingly effective, though I confess I don’t know what their impact would be on the heat retention.

valiant

12,378 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st February
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Wilmslowboy said:
Looking to get some quotes for replacement roof, plus make good inside.

What should I expect to pay ?

It is 3 meters by 3 meters

(no doubt first quotes will be subject to Cheshire premium)
Interested in this also.

Our conservatory roof is about 5x3m and currently polycarbonate but the room is unusable in high temps (it's stifling and freezing in winter despite having rads in there).

Seeing prices are all over the place and a lot of cowboy operators with dubious selling techniques of the 80s double glazing style so what sort of price per sq metre should we be looking at?

Maxus

1,127 posts

197 months

Monday 3rd February
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For the 3 x 3 and 5 x 3 conservatives I reckon you will be sub £10k. This excludes any electrical work or painting.

As per my earlier post, give cosyroof a call. A local guy will come out, measure up and give you a quote. No messing or double glazing sales techniques.

DorsetSparky

385 posts

26 months

Monday 3rd February
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Does that not make the rooms behind the conservatory crazily dark though?

Wilmslowboy

Original Poster:

4,555 posts

222 months

Wednesday 5th February
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£12k to £12.5k (subject to final design)
Price includes 3 or 4 opening skylights and down-lights.

Plus £500 for Regs registration and £200 for rubbish removal (skip hire)




cliffords

2,640 posts

39 months

Wednesday 5th February
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I called the planning department at our district council today as after taking to my wife she has got this as a mission.

Just recounting what they told me . They said it may change the designation of the room and result in planning permission requirements.They unfortunately we're not able to advise without a pre planning request from me .It's a few drawings and a couple of maps from OS etc and an outline plan. I have most of this from when it went up. So for £80. I am going to do it .

It appears I can't get a definite answer without doing this , and I do want to know for sure . The planning person I talked to was a bit maybe, perhaps , should consider. A bit infuriating but it's £80 . I will do it tomorrow. Two to three weeks for an answer.

M138

597 posts

7 months

Thursday 6th February
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cliffords said:
I called the planning department at our district council today as after taking to my wife she has got this as a mission.

Just recounting what they told me . They said it may change the designation of the room and result in planning permission requirements.They unfortunately we're not able to advise without a pre planning request from me .It's a few drawings and a couple of maps from OS etc and an outline plan. I have most of this from when it went up. So for £80. I am going to do it .

It appears I can't get a definite answer without doing this , and I do want to know for sure . The planning person I talked to was a bit maybe, perhaps , should consider. A bit infuriating but it's £80 . I will do it tomorrow. Two to three weeks for an answer.
My mate had it done to his conservatory, now got a proper roof, all insulated, plasterboard and plastered ceiling etc, like a proper extra part of the house now. The company who did It sorted all the paperwork out with the council, which helped as they know all the rules.
Well worth it.