Is there a name for this sort of behavioural trait?

Is there a name for this sort of behavioural trait?

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Rockatansky

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Tuesday 21st January
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When someone sets you up with a question they already know (or suspect) you don't know the answer to, what's that called?

Usually in discussion about history, general knowledge, that sort of thing.

For example:

Rockatansky, you'll know what year Marie Antoinette was executed, won't you? - then go on to talk at length and with authority about what they know whilst knowing you knew sod all in the first place.

It's a guy at work. I like him, but I've picked up that he does this a lot and I'm certain that there must be some sort of behavioural mind game going on, subconscious or otherwise...


milfordkong

1,289 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st January
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Yeah there is, it's called being a nob.

Rockatansky

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Tuesday 21st January
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milfordkong said:
Yeah there is, it's called being a nob.
biglaugh

MattsCar

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117 months

Tuesday 21st January
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Well on the surface of it, it is certainly pompous and it seems to be him asserting some sort of intellectual dominance over you...In his mind anyway.

But yeah, I don't know the name of the psychological trait or if it is even classed as something other than being a bell.

Maybe you should just do the same back to him?

Gary29

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111 months

Tuesday 21st January
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He's trying to belittle you, and prove his superiority. He's probably insecure in himself deep down.

His Dad probably used to do the same to him to make him feel stupid when he was a kid, and now it's his turn.

If he's doing it on purpose at regular intervals, then yes, he's a nob.


Rockatansky

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MattsCar said:
Well on the surface of it, it is certainly pompous and it seems to be him asserting some sort of intellectual dominance over you...In his mind anyway.

But yeah, I don't know the name of the psychological trait or if it is even classed as something other than being a bell.
Yeah, the intellectual dominance thing and / or insecurity of some sort is where I think it lies.

He's self deprecating about his education and knowledge, but he's not daft. He'll add flattering my education or level of intelligence and then hit you with a niche question about the bass player in Blondie..

I'm at ease with my ignorance of all things, I'm very much in the 'the more I learn, the more I know that I know nothing' kind of camp. I've nothing to prove, but I'm curious what his drive is.

MattsCar

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Tuesday 21st January
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When men do this to women...it is known as Mansplaining...not that you are a woman...

Hoofy

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Tuesday 21st January
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Rockatansky said:
MattsCar said:
Well on the surface of it, it is certainly pompous and it seems to be him asserting some sort of intellectual dominance over you...In his mind anyway.

But yeah, I don't know the name of the psychological trait or if it is even classed as something other than being a bell.
Yeah, the intellectual dominance thing and / or insecurity of some sort is where I think it lies.

He's self deprecating about his education and knowledge, but he's not daft. He'll add flattering my education or level of intelligence and then hit you with a niche question about the bass player in Blondie..

I'm at ease with my ignorance of all things, I'm very much in the 'the more I learn, the more I know that I know nothing' kind of camp. I've nothing to prove, but I'm curious what his drive is.
It's an ego thing. As someone else mentioned, it's down to him being insecure so he needs to tell people that he knows stuff. It's something we all feel the need to do but we tend not to do it in a way that puts others down.

If you're feeling a bit mean, you could take him to task over something in 1 of 2 ways:
1) make notes on some key detail then go away to check it, then come back some time later with your findings if his knowledge is proven to be incorrect
2) when he makes some statement, you ask more detail, to the point where he no longer knows and will therefore come away feeling a bit stupid.

There is another way
3) just walk off uninterested or change the topic mid-conversation. Or wait until he's finished, and start a reply with, "Anyway,..."

Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 21st January 10:34

Hoofy

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Tuesday 21st January
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Actually, do you feel he has high "EQ"? Does he navigate office politics really well? Comes across as personable? Or is he more a geek, a socially awkward penguin, clumsy with personal interactions? If the latter, it might just be his clumsy way of trying to share with everyone some factoid.

Monkeylegend

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243 months

Tuesday 21st January
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He would probably make a good barrister. They always ask questions they already know the answers to.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,823 posts

235 months

Tuesday 21st January
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sounds like the IT Guy in the Office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8pgV74_Hw

Slow.Patrol

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26 months

Tuesday 21st January
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MattsCar said:
When men do this to women...it is known as Mansplaining...not that you are a woman...
The new term is coercive

Chris Peacock

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146 months

Tuesday 21st January
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Gary29 said:
He's trying to belittle you
This.

He'd fit in extremely well in NP&E.

steveo3002

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186 months

Tuesday 21st January
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you'll know what year Marie Antoinette was executed, won't you?

eh ? nah mate not a clue , what saddo gives an eff about that old dross , i got work to do

Rockatansky

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Tuesday 21st January
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
sounds like the IT Guy in the Office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8pgV74_Hw
biglaugh

welshjon81

678 posts

153 months

Tuesday 21st January
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Oh there is a guy I work with similar to this.. He will listen to a podcast (or something similar) the night before, and then steer the conversation in that topical area in the office. It's a bit like the Ricky Jervais character, David Brent, in a certain episode of The Office. It's so cringey and obviously done and he is absolutely shameless with it.

The trouble is, the MD has completely fallen for his "intellect" and managerial buzz words and thinks the sun shines out of his backside.

Lotobear

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140 months

Tuesday 21st January
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Slow.Patrol said:
MattsCar said:
When men do this to women...it is known as Mansplaining...not that you are a woman...
The new term is coercive
That's old hat - it's now gaslighting

zalrak

492 posts

97 months

Tuesday 21st January
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I'm no psychiatrist but I find this stuff interesting and has a bit of this stuff around it:

https://www.vitaliscoaching.com/blog/parent-adult-...

Wiki article might be more helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_analys...

Edited by zalrak on Tuesday 21st January 11:34

Hoofy

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Tuesday 21st January
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Lotobear said:
Slow.Patrol said:
MattsCar said:
When men do this to women...it is known as Mansplaining...not that you are a woman...
The new term is coercive
That's old hat - it's now gaslighting
Aren't mansplaining and gaslighting different things? I would define the differences but then I'd risk being accused of mansplaining to another man. biggrin

wildoliver

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228 months

Tuesday 21st January
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Rockatansky said:
When someone sets you up with a question they already know (or suspect) you don't know the answer to, what's that called?

Usually in discussion about history, general knowledge, that sort of thing.

For example:

Rockatansky, you'll know what year Marie Antoinette was executed, won't you? - then go on to talk at length and with authority about what they know whilst knowing you knew sod all in the first place.

It's a guy at work. I like him, but I've picked up that he does this a lot and I'm certain that there must be some sort of behavioural mind game going on, subconscious or otherwise...
Simple way to stop it. Listen intently, then ask a side question from what they have told you. Why was she killed, where, what was the political movement in the run up.

99% of the time they read the snippet of info about ten mins ago, know sod all about it and are trying to look clever. Let them hang themselves. If you actually do know the subject it can be even more satisfying as you lead them down a path.