‘Misinformation’
Discussion
‘Misinformation and untruths’ seems to be the rather flaccid response to blatant lies or propaganda and hardly countering head-on the crap that’s peddled hourly by Musk, Trump, Putin and goodness knows who else.
Isn’t anyone able to call them lies any more or is it in case that someone becomes mildly offended at being called a liar?
Isn’t anyone able to call them lies any more or is it in case that someone becomes mildly offended at being called a liar?
I imagine some of the media are terrified of either being sued or if you follow the money to some degree they depend on these people for an income.
Look at the likes of Zuckerberg bowing before Trump and changing all of Facebook's moderation policies almost overnight.
When it comes to politicians a lot of the media still work on the "good chap" principle from a time when politicians weren't expected to and arguably didn't blatantly lie.
The last few years have seen the normalisation of deviance which largely started with Trump and Johnson and it's almost as if they still haven't quite worked out how to approach it.
Look at the likes of Zuckerberg bowing before Trump and changing all of Facebook's moderation policies almost overnight.
When it comes to politicians a lot of the media still work on the "good chap" principle from a time when politicians weren't expected to and arguably didn't blatantly lie.
The last few years have seen the normalisation of deviance which largely started with Trump and Johnson and it's almost as if they still haven't quite worked out how to approach it.
GeneralBanter said:
‘Misinformation and untruths’ seems to be the rather flaccid response to blatant lies or propaganda and hardly countering head-on the crap that’s peddled hourly by Musk, Trump, Putin and goodness knows who else.
Isn’t anyone able to call them lies any more or is it in case that someone becomes mildly offended at being called a liar?
I think it IS countered (by the likes of BBC Verify and various FactCheck websites) but the Wibblists tend to ignore this and deflect.Isn’t anyone able to call them lies any more or is it in case that someone becomes mildly offended at being called a liar?
It's not as simple as truth vs falsehood. This isn't libel.
Politicians have invented categories for speech that give them power over what can be said, regradless of the facts. So now the game is to push their opponents' speech into such a category so that they cannot say it, regardless of the facts.
Politicians have invented categories for speech that give them power over what can be said, regradless of the facts. So now the game is to push their opponents' speech into such a category so that they cannot say it, regardless of the facts.
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/187779520639050574...
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/187778975785965206...
Zuckerberg talking about censorship imposed on Facebook.
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/187778975785965206...
Zuckerberg talking about censorship imposed on Facebook.
vixen1700 said:
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/187779520639050574...
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/187778975785965206...
Zuckerberg talking about censorship imposed on Facebook.
Be gentle on Zuck, he's severely disabled - it must be a tough life surviving when you don't have a spine....https://x.com/disclosetv/status/187778975785965206...
Zuckerberg talking about censorship imposed on Facebook.
Most of the problem is due to the business models of these social media companies, they've stopped serving you what you asked for or wanted, their algorithms have decided that they'll serve you a healthy dose of what you dislike. Engagement = clicks = ad revenue.
Case in point, yesterday on YouTube I searched for a fairly obscure UK indie band, and about a quarter of the suggestions were click-bait anti-woke nonsense. Unless YouTube's algorithms were on acid, there was zero correlation. The ens
ttification of the internet continues....
Case in point, yesterday on YouTube I searched for a fairly obscure UK indie band, and about a quarter of the suggestions were click-bait anti-woke nonsense. Unless YouTube's algorithms were on acid, there was zero correlation. The ens
ttification of the internet continues....More than any particular agenda, the aim is to wear you out until you neither know, nor care, what's real nd true and what isn't.
For a lot of people that's already succeeded. They will never believe a factual correction of total bilge if it's from a source they've been conditioned to discard.
Once it's in place for more then the real fun will begin.
For a lot of people that's already succeeded. They will never believe a factual correction of total bilge if it's from a source they've been conditioned to discard.
Once it's in place for more then the real fun will begin.
Trump: You know we found this website called Piston Heads out of England and by God it was packed with idiots of all persuasions.....
Obama: <laughs knowingly>
Obama: Seriously, we've been tracking them since 2015. If they were US citizens we would have some of them on a watchlist due to threats of violence against a US president.
Obama: The CIA boys found some real doozies there - we calculated that some of them spend half of their waking hours copying and pasting articles about you from our main stream and alternative media outlets.
Trump: <laughs>Whatever keeps 'em busy.....we helped them once before.... then they sold jet engines to the Russians....can you believe it?
Countdown said:
GeneralBanter said:
‘Misinformation and untruths’ seems to be the rather flaccid response to blatant lies or propaganda and hardly countering head-on the crap that’s peddled hourly by Musk, Trump, Putin and goodness knows who else.
Isn’t anyone able to call them lies any more or is it in case that someone becomes mildly offended at being called a liar?
I think it IS countered (by the likes of BBC Verify and various FactCheck websites) but the Wibblists tend to ignore this and deflect.Isn’t anyone able to call them lies any more or is it in case that someone becomes mildly offended at being called a liar?
Douglas Quaid said:
The problem is when the bbc verify and various factcheck websites actually publish incorrect stuff themselves. ‘Factchecking’ tends to mean whatever the site wants it to mean rather than being completely objective.
Could you give examples of where the BBC have posted "facts" which have then turned out to be incorrect, and they've not issued a retraction?Oooor, you can realise it’s all just pantomime and you’re enabling them to suck you into their bullst.
Both sides are lying/distorting.
There is no absolute truth because they’re not arguing absolutes… they arguing the toss and getting you, for some reason, to care, as if your opinion matters, as if you’ll vote one way or another, but whichever you do will probably make zero actual difference to you as all they really do is rearrange deckchairs differently.
Misinformation is just another way to make you think their is a fight and get your emotional buy-in and waste your emotional energy on nothingness.
t.Both sides are lying/distorting.
There is no absolute truth because they’re not arguing absolutes… they arguing the toss and getting you, for some reason, to care, as if your opinion matters, as if you’ll vote one way or another, but whichever you do will probably make zero actual difference to you as all they really do is rearrange deckchairs differently.
Misinformation is just another way to make you think their is a fight and get your emotional buy-in and waste your emotional energy on nothingness.
Mr Whippy said:
Oooor, you can realise it’s all just pantomime and you’re enabling them to suck you into their bullst.
Both sides are lying/distorting.
There is no absolute truth because they’re not arguing absolutes… they arguing the toss and getting you, for some reason, to care, as if your opinion matters, as if you’ll vote one way or another, but whichever you do will probably make zero actual difference to you as all they really do is rearrange deckchairs differently.
Misinformation is just another way to make you think their is a fight and get your emotional buy-in and waste your emotional energy on nothingness.
More fundamental still, there aren't really two sides.t.Both sides are lying/distorting.
There is no absolute truth because they’re not arguing absolutes… they arguing the toss and getting you, for some reason, to care, as if your opinion matters, as if you’ll vote one way or another, but whichever you do will probably make zero actual difference to you as all they really do is rearrange deckchairs differently.
Misinformation is just another way to make you think their is a fight and get your emotional buy-in and waste your emotional energy on nothingness.
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