Replacing an elderly Gledhill heating system
Replacing an elderly Gledhill heating system
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Acorn1

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1,822 posts

36 months

Friday 10th January
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My house has a Boilermate 2000 served by a Prima boiler.

This is becoming more troublesome but has served me well for 12 years and is now 22 years old and I think it’s time to replace it.

I do like the fact I get instant stored hot water on demand and the hot water runs at the same pressure as the cold, my showers have fantastic pressure.

Can anyone recommend a similar alternative system?

My neighbour replaced his with a combi system and the shower pressure is now rubbish.

Simpo Two

89,322 posts

281 months

Friday 10th January
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You need a 'heat only' boiler.

Mine is 36 years old and still going.

ComStrike

444 posts

109 months

Friday 10th January
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I had the same system, no real issues with it but it was 16 years old & I got the fear.

Changed it for a Bosch 40kw Combi, neighbours have all done the same although most went with an ideal 30kw combi. I got a deal on the Bosch so was a no brainer

It runs well

Fore Left

1,577 posts

198 months

Saturday 11th January
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I replaced mine with a Megaflo pressurised cylinder. Mains pressure hot water but the internal pressure bubble is a pita as it needs repressurising every few months.

Acorn1

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36 months

Saturday 11th January
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Is a megaflo an unvented system?


Acorn1

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36 months

Saturday 11th January
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Simpo Two said:
You need a 'heat only' boiler.

Mine is 36 years old and still going.
The boiler is OK, one of the pumps in the tank keeps crapping out intermittently and Gledhill don’t make them anymore.

un1eash

650 posts

156 months

Saturday 11th January
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We had a Gledhill in our old house which sprung a leak, was replaced with a cylinder from Advanced Appliances. It ran off an old glowworm boiler.

Currently have an unvented 210l Thermaq cylinder and 18kw Ideal Logic boiler for a 1800sq/ft 3 shower house.

ChocolateFrog

32,237 posts

189 months

Saturday 11th January
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Acorn1 said:
Simpo Two said:
You need a 'heat only' boiler.

Mine is 36 years old and still going.
The boiler is OK, one of the pumps in the tank keeps crapping out intermittently and Gledhill don’t make them anymore.
They can be replaced, there's nothing special about them. I just fitted a off the shelf Grundfos.

I've had to replace the PCB a few times but our Boilermate 2000 is a decent bit of kit, still going strong after 23 years.

I think I'd only replace it with an unvented system as I believe the Boliermate was an intermediate step before unvented systems were allowed.

ChocolateFrog

32,237 posts

189 months

Saturday 11th January
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The problem is that most plumbers are unfamiliar with them and repeat something they've hears about them sludging up.

I replaced the pump on the left a few years ago.


Acorn1

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36 months

Saturday 11th January
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Great information, thank you, so a Grundfos pump is compatible.

I have. BG service contract and more than one engineer has told me you can’t get the pumps anymore?

I know there’s 3 pumps on the tank but not sure what they all do?

Looking at the photo it”s the one on the right that’s troublesome.

Edited by Acorn1 on Saturday 11th January 09:46

silversurfer1

924 posts

152 months

Saturday 11th January
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Yes you can just put a 5m head pump in and it will run just fine. I used to repair loads of these back in the day, way over complicated for what they do.

One pump is primary water from boiler to store one is for the heating system and the other is to move water around the plate heat exchanger that generates hot water to your taps.

If you can get the pressure relief valve discharge outside just fit an unvented cylinder on an S plan

Good luck

Jg

Acorn1

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36 months

Saturday 11th January
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Thank you.

I have BG coming out again on Monday.

It’s an odd problem I have, in that the boiler fails to fire up despite my Hive saying it’s heating on cold mornings.

In the afternoon or at night it seems to work fine.

Logic would dictate it’s some sort of thermostat issue, however the BG guys keep saying it’s the pump?

ChocolateFrog

32,237 posts

189 months

Saturday 11th January
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I might be wrong but I think you can turn that screw in the middle of the pump which will tell you if its seized.

Sounds like similar symptoms to what I had. If the pump isn't working then the water in the boiler will get upto the return temp and shut the boiler off.

Atleast that's what I believed was happening. You can interrogate the thermal store for error codes but I'd have to Google how to do it to remind myself.

No ideas for a name

2,654 posts

102 months

Saturday 11th January
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ChocolateFrog said:
I might be wrong but I think you can turn that screw in the middle of the pump which will tell you if its seized.
Pretty sure the slot in the middle of the pump is just a cover... but once unscrewed, you can get to a slot in the impeller which should be free moving.
When I have done this, the tollerances are tight enough that the water doesn't pour out, so you don't need to drain down to do it.


Fore Left

1,577 posts

198 months

Saturday 11th January
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Acorn1 said:
Is a megaflo an unvented system?
Yes. Next time I'd get a cylinder with a separate pressure vessel.

Semmelweiss

1,810 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th January
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Have you got the Gledhill Response annual maintenance agreement? I've had one since 2007 and it has covered all repairs required since then.

Acorn1

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1,822 posts

36 months

Sunday 12th January
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No just BG homecare