civil servants strike
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it seems that civil servants are to strike after being told to go to the office for 3 days a week.
Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
richhead said:
it seems that civil servants are to strike after being told to go to the office for 3 days a week.
Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
Why didn't you get a job at the council?Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
Which civil servants are being asked to go in the office and which are striking? Civil servant covers a hell of a lot of people and roles.
Not sure the number of days they spend in the office impacts their productivity (and therefore the value I get from my tax contribution).
I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
survivalist said:
Not sure the number of days they spend in the office impacts their productivity (and therefore the value I get from my tax contribution).
I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
I agree I could care less plus if less people are in the office they can cut costs sell buildings move to smaller premises etc. If you have X tasks to do a day and get X done then I don't care.I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
The idea we all collaborate and engage in blue sky thinking is BS. Most roles are line roles rinse an repeat hence average salary is 33k in the UK or roughly a third more than minimum wage. Most jobs are a basic process not designing the next air craft carrier or space X rocket.
However saying that why go on strike why not just leave for another job.
richhead said:
it seems that civil servants are to strike after being told to go to the office for 3 days a week.
Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
Everyone has the right to withdraw their labour if they’re not satisfied with their pay and/or conditions. What would you call the alternative?Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
This complaint sounds like the politics of envy. Go and get a job with the council or the NHS or become a teacher if you want to, I’m sure someone else will fill your niche in the private sector.
Gecko1978 said:
survivalist said:
Not sure the number of days they spend in the office impacts their productivity (and therefore the value I get from my tax contribution).
I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
I agree I could care less plus if less people are in the office they can cut costs sell buildings move to smaller premises etc. If you have X tasks to do a day and get X done then I don't care.I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
The idea we all collaborate and engage in blue sky thinking is BS. Most roles are line roles rinse an repeat hence average salary is 33k in the UK or roughly a third more than minimum wage. Most jobs are a basic process not designing the next air craft carrier or space X rocket.
However saying that why go on strike why not just leave for another job.
If you're referring to the public and commercial services union, they have 3800 members, according to some press. They are the ones saying they'll go on strike, not the entire civil service.
Anyway, this is nothing new. All civil service have been told to be in 3 days a week since January this year. It wasn't a popular policy but I'm not sure how rigourously it's being enforced.
For what it's worth, I think 3 days is reasonable for certain roles where you need to speak to other teams etc. But if you don't need to interact with other teams then I don't see the point.
Anyway, this is nothing new. All civil service have been told to be in 3 days a week since January this year. It wasn't a popular policy but I'm not sure how rigourously it's being enforced.
For what it's worth, I think 3 days is reasonable for certain roles where you need to speak to other teams etc. But if you don't need to interact with other teams then I don't see the point.
xx99xx said:
If you're referring to the public and commercial services union, they have 3800 members, according to some press. They are the ones saying they'll go on strike, not the entire civil service.
Anyway, this is nothing new. All civil service have been told to be in 3 days a week since January this year. It wasn't a popular policy but I'm not sure how rigourously it's being enforced.
For what it's worth, I think 3 days is reasonable for certain roles where you need to speak to other teams etc. But if you don't need to interact with other teams then I don't see the point.
All civil servants haven't been told to be in the office 3 days a week. Anyway, this is nothing new. All civil service have been told to be in 3 days a week since January this year. It wasn't a popular policy but I'm not sure how rigourously it's being enforced.
For what it's worth, I think 3 days is reasonable for certain roles where you need to speak to other teams etc. But if you don't need to interact with other teams then I don't see the point.
At least two thirds of the time I've spent in the office over three decades has consisted of being distracted by people wittering about babies, shopping, recipes, soap operas and reality TV. Meanwhile, those of us who want to get on can't concentrate. Not sure how that serves "the people".
survivalist said:
Not sure the number of days they spend in the office impacts their productivity (and therefore the value I get from my tax contribution).
I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
There will obviously be those that take the piss.I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
It will affeCt productivity.
I've seen it and done it.
To think it doesn't happen would be daft.
Silvanus said:
All civil servants haven't been told to be in the office 3 days a week.
Yes they have. Or at least, they 'had' been told. Whether they are or not will differ between departments and locations. Other public sector organisations will differ again as they are not part of civil service.philv said:
survivalist said:
Not sure the number of days they spend in the office impacts their productivity (and therefore the value I get from my tax contribution).
I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
There will obviously be those that take the piss.I’d certainly like them to be more productive, but don’t give a monkeys how many days they spend in an office.
Office days seem to mainly about networking, lunches and beers these days, don’t get much work done.
It will affeCt productivity.
I've seen it and done it.
To think it doesn't happen would be daft.
Also, they are wasting tax payers money, Piss takers in the private sector add cost to things that I can usually choose not to pay for.
If your job consists of sitting in front of a computer doing whatever people do with spreadsheets and you consistently get all the work expected of you completed every week without errors then I don’t really see that it matters whether you’re on top of Everest or at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
There are loads of jobs which can be done from home perfectly well and I’m not at all sure why some people get so steamed up about it.
There are loads of jobs which can be done from home perfectly well and I’m not at all sure why some people get so steamed up about it.
survivalist said:
Indeed. Based on my experience there are a much higher percentage of piss takers in the public sector.
Also, they are wasting tax payers money, Piss takers in the private sector add cost to things that I can usually choose not to pay for.
Given the majority of Public Sector services are now outsourced to the PS it makes you wonder doesn't it?Also, they are wasting tax payers money, Piss takers in the private sector add cost to things that I can usually choose not to pay for.
jules_s said:
survivalist said:
Indeed. Based on my experience there are a much higher percentage of piss takers in the public sector.
Also, they are wasting tax payers money, Piss takers in the private sector add cost to things that I can usually choose not to pay for.
Given the majority of Public Sector services are now outsourced to the PS it makes you wonder doesn't it?Also, they are wasting tax payers money, Piss takers in the private sector add cost to things that I can usually choose not to pay for.
Also, private sector outsourcers know how low the bar is, so only increase it by a small margin.
richhead said:
it seems that civil servants are to strike after being told to go to the office for 3 days a week.
Have they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
A link to the data supporting 25% of council tax going towards civil servant pensions would be welcomed. Hint: You won't find itHave they forgotten that they work for the people?
In other news 25% of your council tax goes towards civil servants pensions.
I should have got a job at the council.
Instead of making my own way as self employed.
Lots of jobs going at local councils, mostly wiping old people's arses. Fancy it?
Ascayman said:
How will the rest of us tell?
We will get a report at the end of the year that PS productivity has fallen even further than this year, and all the years before that! 
News today stating that the PS expected to keep growing in size for the next few years. Which should not come as a shock as big government is what Labour says on the tin.
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