Good behaviour contract - for young teen/media use

Good behaviour contract - for young teen/media use

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Hugo Stiglitz

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38,925 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Sounds awful even considering this and the words "good behaviour contract" but what else can I do?

He's uses hook and crook to circumvent 3hrs per day max of all screentime. That's across phone/PlayStation etc.

He hides a tablet that he said he couldn't remember where he put it so....

For the past two days I have taken everything from him. To get them back- he needs to take me through a daily PlayStation time limit lock? (only I will know the password etc) and I'll print off rules that I'll put on the door.

Is this the way to do it, or is there a better way?

Motorman74

462 posts

33 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Change the main WIFI password.

Buy a Wireless access point, connect it to the existing router, set it up with a dedicated network just for him.

Either use the features of the access point to enable/disable the WIFI on a schedule, or just unplug it and lock it away when 3 hours is up.

He could still play offline on his playstation I guess, but I suspect, as with most kids, he wants to play with his mates.

J6542

2,611 posts

56 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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It’s the holidays, what else are you expecting him to do? If he has jobs to do, and they are all done, why does it matter what he does with his spare time?

njw1

2,392 posts

123 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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How old is he?

CoolHands

20,331 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Damn, and it’s only Boxing Day!

Hoofy

78,287 posts

294 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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How about rewarding him for effort and achievement? If he does something, he gets 30 minutes of fun or whatever. The "something" is down to you to decide. The reward is also down to you. Maybe that forms part of the agreement, rather than a decree from on high, you agree on a reward and effort system. If he's into gyming or wants to improve something in his life (eg a sport) or loves Andrew Tate (he's a young teen so who knows if Tate has his tentacles on your son's mind or not), this kind of thing is great for developing consistency, resilience and discipline.

I use this for motivating myself to create marketing material for my business. Every day for the last 2 years I've been doing this and banging out copy, even on Christmas morning and today. Happy to send over more details if you want a breakdown of this system.

p4cks

7,098 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Hoofy said:
How about rewarding him for effort and achievement? If he does something, he gets 30 minutes of fun or whatever. The "something" is down to you to decide. The reward is also down to you. Maybe that forms part of the agreement, rather than a decree from on high, you agree on a reward and effort system. If he's into gyming or wants to improve something in his life (eg a sport) or loves Andrew Tate (he's a young teen so who knows if Tate has his tentacles on your son's mind or not), this kind of thing is great for developing consistency, resilience and discipline.

I use this for motivating myself to create marketing material for my business. Every day for the last 2 years I've been doing this and banging out copy, even on Christmas morning and today. Happy to send over more details if you want a breakdown of this system.
This. Training a kid/human is no different to training a dog - reward them

J6542

2,611 posts

56 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Op won’t reply tonight since he has used up his daily screen time

Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

38,925 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Hoofy said:
How about rewarding him for effort and achievement? If he does something, he gets 30 minutes of fun or whatever. The "something" is down to you to decide. The reward is also down to you. Maybe that forms part of the agreement, rather than a decree from on high, you agree on a reward and effort system. If he's into gyming or wants to improve something in his life (eg a sport) or loves Andrew Tate (he's a young teen so who knows if Tate has his tentacles on your son's mind or not), this kind of thing is great for developing consistency, resilience and discipline.

I use this for motivating myself to create marketing material for my business. Every day for the last 2 years I've been doing this and banging out copy, even on Christmas morning and today. Happy to send over more details if you want a breakdown of this system.
He loves gaming the system i.e. trying to beat me and get round any rule. I know we would probably have been like this to a degree but hes very manipulative. Which is worrying. I admire the first part but not the manipulative side.

He's 14.

MOMACC

468 posts

49 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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It's 2024 screen time is everywhere.

He's 14 - what else is he going to do, sit with mum and dad and play board games?

If I was 14 and I had 2 weeks off from school I'd be online all day too, it's what kids do these days.

Regbuser

5,229 posts

47 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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J6542 said:
Op won’t reply tonight since he has used up his daily screen time
hehe

Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

38,925 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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MOMACC said:
It's 2024 screen time is everywhere.

He's 14 - what else is he going to do, sit with mum and dad and play board games?

If I was 14 and I had 2 weeks off from school I'd be online all day too, it's what kids do these days.
So..... he went to the in laws on Xmas Eve for 4 days. He's interacted! I went to get a curry in Bradford tonight and in passing popped in and.... he's currently playing Monopoly with his Uncles and Aunts biggrin

It won't last but... here's a good chance to try and reset..

Jimjimhim

2,107 posts

12 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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3hrs of all screen time? So a film followed by about 1 hour of playing, no wonder he wants to get around your rules!

richhead

2,119 posts

23 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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p4cks said:
This. Training a kid/human is no different to training a dog - reward them
This
Take him places like the park for a kick about or something, help him with hobbies other than screen time, in short spend time with him.

Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

38,925 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Jimjimhim said:
3hrs of all screen time? So a film followed by about 1 hour of playing, no wonder he wants to get around your rules!
You are my son? He must have a PH login! tongue out

Hoofy

78,287 posts

294 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Hoofy said:
How about rewarding him for effort and achievement? If he does something, he gets 30 minutes of fun or whatever. The "something" is down to you to decide. The reward is also down to you. Maybe that forms part of the agreement, rather than a decree from on high, you agree on a reward and effort system. If he's into gyming or wants to improve something in his life (eg a sport) or loves Andrew Tate (he's a young teen so who knows if Tate has his tentacles on your son's mind or not), this kind of thing is great for developing consistency, resilience and discipline.

I use this for motivating myself to create marketing material for my business. Every day for the last 2 years I've been doing this and banging out copy, even on Christmas morning and today. Happy to send over more details if you want a breakdown of this system.
He loves gaming the system i.e. trying to beat me and get round any rule. I know we would probably have been like this to a degree but hes very manipulative. Which is worrying. I admire the first part but not the manipulative side.

He's 14.
Sounds like an additional issue - needs to learn when to be clever and strategic, and when to do the right thing for his long term good? That's not a parental judgement - just looking at things from a mind/thinking viewpoint. What and how we think reinforces what and how we think.

jdw100

5,126 posts

176 months

Friday 27th December 2024
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Jimjimhim said:
3hrs of all screen time? So a film followed by about 1 hour of playing, no wonder he wants to get around your rules!
That’s three hours!

How can that be healthy?

We went for to a Christmas Day brunch for about 6/7 couples. Arrived 12:00 left at 18:30.

Kids ranged from 6mths to 13.

Appalls me how many parents pretty much on arrival hand over a phone or tablet.

One 13 year old barely looked up for 5 hours.

Couple of the 7-10 years old on tablets. Their own tablets (seriously?) over a lunch.

Honestly it appals me that people give children a phone or tablet during a meal - meals are for interaction. Same in a car. It’s really surprises me how many get a phone for a car journey.

Flights -I totally get it.

The other 13 year old was doing some fantastic drawings on paper. Very impressive.

My 7 year old, my friend’s 6 and another friend’s 10; explored the food, herded some guinea fowl, spent two hours in the pools, did a treasure hunt, met some other kids, collected shells at beach, fought, didn’t want to go home….

We had brought some Lego for my daughter but it didn’t come out of the bag in the end.

You have children, at a Christmas event and you stick them in front of a screen?

So yes, my own view is three hours a day is more than enough.


NumBMW

896 posts

141 months

Friday 27th December 2024
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Hoofy said:
How about rewarding him for effort and achievement? If he does something, he gets 30 minutes of fun or whatever. The "something" is down to you to decide. The reward is also down to you. Maybe that forms part of the agreement, rather than a decree from on high, you agree on a reward and effort system. If he's into gyming or wants to improve something in his life (eg a sport) or loves Andrew Tate (he's a young teen so who knows if Tate has his tentacles on your son's mind or not), this kind of thing is great for developing consistency, resilience and discipline.

I use this for motivating myself to create marketing material for my business. Every day for the last 2 years I've been doing this and banging out copy, even on Christmas morning and today. Happy to send over more details if you want a breakdown of this system.
This is a massive problem you are causing here.
A Reward for interaction with family and friends?
You are advising that a 14 year old should be rewarded for spending time away from the PlayStation?
“Speak to your dad for 30 mins and you get an hour on the computer as a reward” ??

Really??


NumBMW

896 posts

141 months

Friday 27th December 2024
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p4cks said:
This. Training a kid/human is no different to training a dog - reward them
When we played junior football, a friend of mine used to get £1 off his grandad for every goal he scored.
Never passed it once.

J6542

2,611 posts

56 months

Friday 27th December 2024
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jdw100 said:
Jimjimhim said:
3hrs of all screen time? So a film followed by about 1 hour of playing, no wonder he wants to get around your rules!
That’s three hours!

How can that be healthy?

We went for to a Christmas Day brunch for about 6/7 couples. Arrived 12:00 left at 18:30.

Kids ranged from 6mths to 13.

Appalls me how many parents pretty much on arrival hand over a phone or tablet.

One 13 year old barely looked up for 5 hours.

Couple of the 7-10 years old on tablets. Their own tablets (seriously?) over a lunch.

Honestly it appals me that people give children a phone or tablet during a meal - meals are for interaction. Same in a car. It’s really surprises me how many get a phone for a car journey.

Flights -I totally get it.

The other 13 year old was doing some fantastic drawings on paper. Very impressive.

My 7 year old, my friend’s 6 and another friend’s 10; explored the food, herded some guinea fowl, spent two hours in the pools, did a treasure hunt, met some other kids, collected shells at beach, fought, didn’t want to go home….

We had brought some Lego for my daughter but it didn’t come out of the bag in the end.

You have children, at a Christmas event and you stick them in front of a screen?

So yes, my own view is three hours a day is more than enough.
That’s your view, does it matter what they are doing on the screen? They could be reading a book or learning about something. What is the difference between a car journey and a flight?

Some people might think that you letting your child run about wild during brunch, while theirs were sat behaved was terrible parenting.