Embraer 190 down

[gotoPzero]

Pilots seem to have been struggling to control the aircraft for over an hour, possibly keeping control with engine thrust / trim only at times only a few hundred feet AGL.

Sadly many deaths but also miraculously quite a few survivors.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwl1e6895qo

I am sure there will be one heck of a story to this one pilots did an incredible job from the sounds of it.

[airbusA346]

There are numerous videos showing the issues they were experiencing and the crash.

https://x.com/bnodesk/status/1871827725268418742

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1hlw0u6...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1hlx3gw...


The altitude was oscillating for 74 minutes before the crash near Aktau Airport, 433 km from the original destination. The aircraft was airborne for 2h 33 min. Average flight time is 57 minutes.

[gotoPzero]

Thread running on PPRUNE with lots of data, they seem to have a heck of a time trying get control.

[MitchT]

Shades of United 232?

[airbusA346]

MitchT said:

Shades of United 232?

And JAL123.

[2fast748]

airbusA346 said:

There are numerous videos showing the issues they were experiencing and the crash.

https://x.com/bnodesk/status/1871827725268418742

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1hlw0u6...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1hlx3gw...


The altitude was oscillating for 74 minutes before the crash near Aktau Airport, 433 km from the original destination. The aircraft was airborne for 2h 33 min. Average flight time is 57 minutes.

I accidentally saw the crash video, grim. Amazing that anyone survived.

Flightradar24's twitter account is warning against over analysis of the data as the plane was in an area known for GPS "jamming".

[airbusA346]

A video of the the tailplane (post accident) has appeared on Telegram.

https://t.me/haqqin_azz/127481

Edited by airbusA346 on Wednesday 25th December 13:22

Edited by airbusA346 on Wednesday 25th December 13:26

Edited by airbusA346 on Wednesday 25th December 13:39

[anonymous-user]

Pretty destructive 'birds'.

[hidetheelephants]

Someone had a go at it with a shoulder-launched missile? Looks a lot like fragmentation damage.

[seawise]

Russian media claim ‘birdstrike’, which i believe translates in Vranjo to ground launched anti aircraft missile. Not like they haven’t got form here…

[airbusA346]

There was a drone attack reported in Grozny this morning.

MH17 Mk2?

[LivLL]

hidetheelephants said:

Someone had a go at it with a shoulder-launched missile? Looks a lot like fragmentation damage.

Looks more like scattered impact damage from debris during the crash sequence.

[Oilchange]

I don't think it is. That looks like fragmentation from an explosive. We'll have to wait if there is a inquiry in to the crash, of course...

[gotoPzero]

Defo looks like something went bang very close and from the outside inside.

[airbusA346]

Oilchange said:

I don't think it is. That looks like fragmentation from an explosive. We'll have to wait if there is a inquiry in to the crash, of course...

The problem with that is the Russian are running the investigation.

[croyde]

And Putin has already offered help. mmmmm

[normalbloke]

LivLL said:

hidetheelephants said:

Someone had a go at it with a shoulder-launched missile? Looks a lot like fragmentation damage.

Looks more like scattered impact damage from debris during the crash sequence.

No, it really doesn’t.

[borcy]

Reports that just before landing in Grozny that an alert for a ukr kamikaze drone was issued.

Russian air defence may well have been active.

[lufbramatt]

Does look a lot like the photos of flack damage on ww2 bombers

[LivLL]

normalbloke said:

LivLL said:

hidetheelephants said:

Someone had a go at it with a shoulder-launched missile? Looks a lot like fragmentation damage.

Looks more like scattered impact damage from debris during the crash sequence.

No, it really doesn’t.

Oh yes it does

Thankfully, it's just an opinion and I don't care if I'm wrong.