Aer Lingus Regional ATR72 incident at Belfast City

Aer Lingus Regional ATR72 incident at Belfast City

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colin79666

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2,064 posts

128 months

Sunday 22nd December 2024
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9xz7jv51yo

Front landing gear collapsed following a hard landing. Positioning flight so only crew onboard. I’ve got some flights booked on their ATR 72s next year, hope they have a spare…

Coincidentally the worst landing I’ve ever experienced was at Belfast City. On a Flybe Dash 8, we bounced and the second thump was so hard some overhead lockers opened and I ended up with the life vest from 3 rows behind at my feet.

Airport will be shut tomorrow, some flights diverted to International but unclear if they will just cancel tomorrows services or run them over there instead.

glazbagun

14,831 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd December 2024
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I remember working in the airport when the Dash 8's had a spate of landing gear failures & the whole lot were grounded. It was not a good time to be working for regional airlines!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Bombardier_Da...

SAS had three failures but that's over 15 years ago, you'd think at this stage they'd be well understood and managed

AndyAudi

3,451 posts

237 months

Sunday 22nd December 2024
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I was on one of them the other week, odd experience getting on & off from the back, some very confused Americans sitting up the front. Tiny (7kg) hand luggage too. I took a pic of the safety card to look up the wee prop plane .

klootzak

676 posts

231 months

Monday 23rd December 2024
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The ATR72 has a pretty decent safety record overall, and most of the fatals have been down to procedural issues rather than technical failure. That said, they do seem more vulnerable to icing than you might expect.

They are the mainstay of Air NZ's regional fleet (along with some Dash 8 Q300s on smaller routes), so I've been on them a fair bit. Crews seem happy landing them in some quite exciting conditions too. Aside from the prop drone I have always found them perfectly pleasant.

k

Earthdweller

16,012 posts

141 months

Monday 23rd December 2024
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Eric Mc

123,857 posts

280 months

Monday 23rd December 2024
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Last accident Aer Lingus had was when they put one of their Shorts 360s into a field near East Midlands airport back in the 1980s. There were no serious injuries apart from one of the fire crew when a fire engine rolled over on a grassy slope.




glazbagun

14,831 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd December 2024
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Earthdweller said:
Wouldn't like to be explaining that if I were at the controls!

Deranged Rover

4,058 posts

89 months

Monday 23rd December 2024
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colin79666 said:
Coincidentally the worst landing I’ve ever experienced was at Belfast City. On a Flybe Dash 8, we bounced and the second thump was so hard some overhead lockers opened and I ended up with the life vest from 3 rows behind at my feet.
I had a similar experience flying into Cork in the middle of a storm about 10 years ago - we bounced three times!

Handily, though, there was a boy of about 10 sitting a few rows back from me who clearly thought he was on a roller-coaster and was laughing his head off the whole time as the plane swung left and right, up and down and finally bounced onto the ground - this did dissipate the tension in the cabin somewhat!

andy97

4,756 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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Eric Mc said:
Last accident Aer Lingus had was when they put one of their Shorts 360s into a field near East Midlands airport back in the 1980s. There were no serious injuries apart from one of the fire crew when a fire engine rolled over on a grassy slope.

Part of Donington Park race track, I think

ecsrobin

18,205 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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Quite an impressive photo of the landing. A friend was airborne at the time for city and instead of a divert to Aldergrove (guessing they’d hit capacity) he got the pleasure of Dublin and a coach journey back to Belfast.

Austin Prefect

966 posts

7 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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Why does an Aer Lingus/Emerald Airlines ATR72 have a UK reg?

ecsrobin

18,205 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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Austin Prefect said:
Why does an Aer Lingus/Emerald Airlines ATR72 have a UK reg?
It’s Aer Lingus UK which is a subsidiary of Aer Lingus based out of Belfast, UK. The aircraft are also leased from a UK company.

Edited by ecsrobin on Wednesday 25th December 09:16

MarkwG

5,534 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th December 2024
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ecsrobin said:
Austin Prefect said:
Why does an Aer Lingus/Emerald Airlines ATR72 have a UK reg?
It’s Aer Lingus UK which is a subsidiary of Aer Lingus based out of Belfast, UK. The aircraft are also leased from a UK company.

Edited by ecsrobin on Wednesday 25th December 09:16
Before Brexit, both UK and EU-based airlines were able to operate flights across all countries. Post-Brexit, fifth freedom rights were removed.

This means that UK-based airlines cannot operate flights between European cities, and European ones cannot fly domestically in the UK. This does not affect cargo flights, only passenger flights. Hence, all the major airlines operating within the UK now have UK based subsidiaries.