Wires through a wall, sealing the gap
Wires through a wall, sealing the gap
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ssray

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1,217 posts

241 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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The electrician has used a air brick to run wiring from the new consumer unit in the garage to the Rest of the house.

I was moving stuff today and there is quite a breeze coming through there, it's no longer a air brick as it's internal in the garage now.

I understand I can't use expanding foam, what else can I use please?
It's seems a fairly large gap to fill, it's currently behind some shelves, which is why I've only just realised why the garage is always freezing.

Ta Ray

CharlesElliott

2,195 posts

298 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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I would use fire rated expanding foam.

KTMsm

28,977 posts

279 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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I'd rather use something mouse proof - mortar would be my first thought

Technically mice could get through mortar but IME they don't, whilst they love eating foam

Simon_GH

781 posts

96 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Mortar would be my first choice but I wonder whether silicone would be easier if access is poor.

Sheepshanks

37,600 posts

135 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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If it's blowing into the garage, where is air coming from?

TA14

13,125 posts

274 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Sheepshanks said:
If it's blowing into the garage, where is air coming from?
Yes. You'd think that it would be an outer wall but how would that square with it now being integral? No doubt a layout plan would explain everything.

TA14

13,125 posts

274 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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If the air brick is no longer used then remove it, put a split duct, say 20mm, around the wire with a grommet at each end: https://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-semi-blind-cable-ent... remove the cavity sleeve, insulate and brick up at either side.

Murph7355

40,403 posts

272 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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And a photo...

Sheepshanks

37,600 posts

135 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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TA14 said:
... remove the cavity sleeve,
That's the bit I wondered about - if the airbrick is through into the house, then surely it'd be warming the garage up?

OTOH if it's venting the underfloor space of the house then blocking it up might not be a great idea.

ssray

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1,217 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th December 2024
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Sheepshanks said:
That's the bit I wondered about - if the airbrick is through into the house, then surely it'd be warming the garage up?

OTOH if it's venting the underfloor space of the house then blocking it up might not be a great idea.
1930's house, large area accessable under the house.

The airbrick now can't work as it should as it's now internal.

I thought foam was a no no around cable as it causes the casing to harden ?

A picture.... it's behind shelving, I'd moved something yesterday and was a little surprised at the amount of breeze from the area

Mr Pointy

12,573 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th December 2024
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ssray said:
1930's house, large area accessable under the house.

The airbrick now can't work as it should as it's now internal.

I thought foam was a no no around cable as it causes the casing to harden ?

A picture.... it's behind shelving, I'd moved something yesterday and was a little surprised at the amount of breeze from the area
Have a look at this expanding foam tape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6lZXjRR-1k

You could cut small pieces & push it into each hole - a bit like fitting a foam earplug. It's might be less likely to interact with the cable sheath.

JimM169

707 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th December 2024
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It's in a garage behind some shelves, I'd just slap some gaffer tape over it! No doubt breaking 30+ rules and regs!

ssray

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1,217 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th December 2024
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Currently the plan is chop up some expanded poly or loft insulation shovel it in and mastic over it

fido

17,849 posts

271 months

Tuesday 17th December 2024
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Unless it's a big hole use caulk or all-weather sealant. If it's a bigger hole then put a tube around the wiring sealed with aforementioned (so you can re-wire in the future) and fill around with cement. Make some brick powder and sprinkle over cement on the outside.

netherfield

2,906 posts

200 months

Tuesday 17th December 2024
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CT1 will do the job.

ssray

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1,217 posts

241 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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Had some time this morning, initially I shoved some scrunched up bubble wrap type stuff and pushed it into the gap past the wires, then chopped up some expanded poly , I used ct1 around the edges to seal it and stick it together.

Went over it after and Jo more cold air, the garage felt warmer too